EC! Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 So I have looked around the interwebs and it looks like Cedar Fair have been installing seat belts on their B&M hypers like Behemoth and Diamondback. I wonder what you guys think about this and do you think that we could see seatbelts on the likes of Silver Star and Shambhala in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Uhoh. Throughput killer ahead! Tom and FrightNights04 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinnaird Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 possible that they want to just make people feal safer and just another safety net just in case and why do they do that with the seat where they are two in front and 2 behind on the diagonal but think it is a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 From the picture it looks like it will squish out all the airtime that the restraints are designed to provide... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) The real reduction in the capacity* will be enthusiasts taking pictures of the seatbelts and showing how big they are! EDIT: *Meant throughput. Silly me, Edited April 28, 2014 by JoshC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC! Posted April 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 From Screamscape: Bad news, Intimidator at Carowinds and Behemoth at Canada's Wonderland also added seat belts this weekend! Load times reported as awful. Well that confirms the throughput issues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 It shouldn't affect dispatch times too much really - I know it's not B&M but surely the concept is the same as any other ride that has seat belts? (Big One, Megafobia etc...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Seatbelts add a lot more to loading times than you might think - Europa Park requested that Wodan should not have seatbelts for this exact reason. In addition to the inevitable faff, problems will arise from people forgetting to do the seatbelt before closing the restraint as it won't be possible to do it afterwards and the restraints would have to be re-opened. If they feel it's not possible for staff to adequately check the seatbelts once the restraints are closed they may even have to use the same system as on Expedition Ge Force which involves checking all the seatbelts before locking the lapbars. This two-stage process is extremely slow as the entire train has to be checked twice. I can't see Silver Star getting seatbelts unless B&M make it mandatory - Europa Park simply wouldn't stand for such a strict H&S policy. Hopefully it's just a Cedar Fair thing - this is the same chain that added belts to a Vekoma Jr coaster, but only made them big enough for 2 kids or 1 (small) adult, resulting in loads of kids getting turned away as their accompanying adult couldn't close the belt. Luke_A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Disgusting Luke_A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 I can't see this reducing the air time much. Just a crazy thing though, there has never been a single incident on any B&M hyper for the seat belts to be warranted (That we know of). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.S217 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Disgusting Yep it's horrible Parks thinking about safety of the guests it's dispacable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Yep it's horrible Parks thinking about safety of the guests it's dispacable Are they thinking about safety though? Or are they just slapping seatbelts on because as a knee-jerk reaction to something? paige 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Yep it's horrible Parks thinking about safety of the guests it's dispacableThey aren't necessary though, otherwise why wouldn't B&M make it a compulsory thing for all hypers? paige 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planenut Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Rode Leviathon on Sunday at Toronto's Wonderland (four times on my own), without belts at the moment. Later in the day throughput was in excess of 1400 per hour, great ride ops. and a fantastic ride with loads of airtime. Managed to keep the restraint fairly loose which would still need my legs to be broken in three places to get me out of the seat (no offers please). pognoi and Luke_A 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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