Mark9 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 But you see, Intamin could build the World's best roller coaster and Benin and Mark would still hate it because it's Intamin. I doubt the colour has anything to do with intamin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepie Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 I'm not a fan of the colours either and also question the point of the train configuration, but then again, this is why I don't go to amusement parks because I'm much more about experience and story rather than track and train. I would expect the lowest level of themeing from an amusement park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamY Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 I really would say the only reason for the trains being how they are is an honest realisation from Intamin that they can't do the full wing coaster after trying with Baco. I mean honestly, the ride is going to be a completely different experience depending on your seat, and not in a good way - the people on the inside will always feel hard done by. Who would design a ride like this by choice? pluk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_A Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 From an enthusiasts point of view on the SkyRush trains, of course we would all prefer to sit on the outer seats, and yes you probably would feel a little disappointed if you were forced to sit on one of the inner seats.But then again if a family were to come along to ride the coaster, just like what Sandor Kernacs said at IAAPA; the more conservative riders can sit on the inner seats whilst the thrill-seeking ones go for the winged ones. If this does end up having lap bars then I'm sure it could be a pretty good coaster; the layout looks to have some great spots of airtime and if it's as smooth as what people say Cheetah Hunt is, then I think it should be a good addition.Then there's the colour... The Yellow and Blue seems to have been a love/hate thing between most enthusiasts. I've always loved the colour scheme of Rage, Oakwood's Speed, Dragon Challenge and most coasters with a more 'in your face' colour scheme, so I'm definitely loving the colours on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 I really would say the only reason for the trains being how they are is an honest realisation from Intamin that they can't do the full wing coaster after trying with Baco. I mean honestly, the ride is going to be a completely different experience depending on your seat, and not in a good way - the people on the inside will always feel hard done by. Who would design a ride like this by choice?B&M and Vekoma for a start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamY Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 When have they done that then, Mr 9? Show me a B&M or Vekoma with half good seats and half crap seats, and I shall mange mon hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 I'm guessing the new B&M Hyper Trains and the Vekoma Giant Boomerangs are the answer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 INNY AND OUTY!But please don't think I'm defending Intamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Verbolten is taking real shape atm... The finale drop having been built and is VERY Big Bad Wolf like...BGW Facebook/TPRLooks good... Shall defo provide a good finish like it did for BBW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraX Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Big Bad Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Closer to home, Valley Mania have a good interview with two Marketing people regarding the park's rebrand and future... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnu-rTWOMIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Verbolten is taking real shape atm... The finale drop having been built and is VERY Big Bad Wolf like...BGW Facebook/TPRLooks good... Shall defo provide a good finish like it did for BBW...Ugly foundations! :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidders Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 ^You haven't seen the building! Apparently it's being left unthemed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 ^You haven't seen the building! Apparently it's being left unthemed!ARGH, SHED! Tom and Luke_A 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Left unthemed but surrounded by trees (eventually), so it's not all bad...Foundations are like that since they're reusing the original BBW ones as well, so hey, who said theme parks don't recycle? :PIt is EXTREMELY similar to BBW's drop as well when you look at this picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam T Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 R.I.P Jaws - The ride June 7, 1990 - January 2nd, 2012. A-Kid and AdamY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamY Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Wish I could be there with it today - so sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Very sad to see it to for nostalgic sake, but it really was quite crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I wouldn't call it crap, certainly a ride only the Americans could pull off, but of course depended a LOT on how good the 'Skipper' was. If they weren't bothered, the ride wasn't great.Think though behind this closure is certainly costs. To have the fire go off so regularly in rather large quantities must have been draining the ride's bill excessively. Add in the fuel for the boats and what-not and must have cost an arm and a leg to operate in comparison to everything else...Just hoping it won't be replaced by more Potter. No doubt it will be though. Wouldn't be surprised if Twister is next to get the axe too. All the 'classic' films are slowly moving on which is the price a movie park pays. The themes aren't always popular forever so you do need to advance sometimes to keep the guests coming, even if it does mean removing some classic (and possibly loved rides, hard to tell when nostalgia takes over the mind as to whether or not people actually care) rides or attractions. Not the first time Universal have removed a classic attraction (Kong), and they replaced it with a BRILLIANT coaster. Fingers crossed for the same eh?For the record, the first time I rode Jaws, the explosions made me feel ill (mixed with dehydration). So we never got on that well anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I wouldn't call it crap, certainly a ride only the Americans could pull off, but of course depended a LOT on how good the 'Skipper' was... If they weren't bothered, the ride wasn't great...I suppose crap might be too strong a word, but last time ('05 - I'm pretty sure it had a heavy referb just after my visit so I probably saw it at a low point) I went I thought it had aged really badly. Couple that with my barely controllable urge to punch overenthusiastic ham acting humourless Americans in the face I guess this one was not really for me either. I guess I've been repeatedly unlucky with my Skipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamY Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I wouldn't say it's crap either, not by a long way. It's a really classic fun experience ride - it ticks all the boxes in terms of drama, excitement, guest interaction and triumphant 'victory' narrative. And although Jaws may be old, it's still a film I would imagine the vast majority of visitors have seen, and everyone knows about. Hell, Jurassic Park and The Mummy (excepting Dragon Emperor) aren't exactly young kids are they? Twister is younger than the original JP, yet there's talk of it going but no threat to Jurassic Park.Frankly I hate the direction Universal are taking. Not only are they removing their classic attractions by the bucketload - sometimes inevitable I agree - they're replacing them with a monopoly of one IP. Not happy. And let me ask you, how many people have seen episodes of The Twilight Zone before going on holiday? Not as many as have seen Twister, Jaws, or any of their kind I'm willing to bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidders Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I hope you're not suggesting The Twilight Zone has less right to remain at the park than Twister or Jaws, Adam... I'll set Mark on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Think it's more of a "with such a wealth of potential IPs to choose from, why must they just go with one" thing... Twilight Zone is one of the least well known IPs (especially over here) so why not use one of them instead of the instant cash prize that Potterland Reloaded would bring? (Yes the answer is in the question)Potter arguably is the best and worst thing to happen to Universal... Best because it has been one of (if not THE) most successful new additions to any modern theme park, but the worst because it WAS so successful... They have to decide (and have seemingly leant towards) just essentially expanding that one area, making the rest of the parks look even worse in comparison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamY Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Oh don't worry, I'd set myself on myself too because I love it! I'm just saying I don't personally believe a film has to be very recent to remain a popular theme park attraction.But in essence, you're right - it has no right at all Edit: Benin, do you have a camera in my room or something? You ninja me EVERY time I post! But I agree that it could have been the best thing to ever happen to them - it was the best when they used the money to repaint The Hulk, pay for Spiderman's HD upgrade, etc etc - if they'd carried on like that and invested in a wide ranging selection of new attractions they would have ridden this wave for the next 10, 15 or even 20 years. Like this they will suffer huge boom and bust, and will have destroyed a large part of their physical land and brand image in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 It's cos I'm amazing ;)On the plus side, Despicable Me ride this year <3<3<3<3 Universal doing SOMETHING right eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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