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Get Vekoma in again and do a complete refurb, new track, new lift hills (tyre driven ftw) and above all, get those bloody fab SFC trains on there...

 

Though they'd need a new blocking system, I doubt tyre lifts would cope with a lot of stop/starting (if they can even do it of course)...

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I'm sure if they got vekoma in and completed a full refurb including retrack the ride wouldnt need new planning permission ?

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Vampire is still the most popular attraction at Chessington for sure. Ideally a retrack without planning permission & refurb would be the best option if possible. No doubt Arrow made it a solid ride. The supports alone are huge! Compare that to Fury where parts of the track wobble. 

My latest ride on it was noticeably rough as if one set of wheels were worn down. It was jerking forwards and backwards.

Even then, Chessington can’t afford to lose Vampire.

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On 6/17/2018 at 7:36 PM, Marley said:

How long you guys think Vampire has got left?

 

Personally I think it has 2/3 more years left. Most Arrow suspended Coasters had a life of around 25 years, Vampires in its 28th year.

 

Big Bad Wolf at Busch Gardens was removed after 25 years and that looked like a better maintained coaster than Vampire.

 

Will it take a horrific accident for Chessington to start thinking of its removal?

 

The big difference is that the other swinging suspended coasters still kept their original trains. Vampire had replacement trains a few years ago from Vekoma (who are still in business unlike Arrow). As long as the structure is still sound/can be repaired then it'll stay, it may need a big overhaul at some point in the medium term however.

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10 hours ago, Stuntman707 said:

Vampire is still the most popular attraction at Chessington for sure. Ideally a retrack without planning permission & refurb would be the best option if possible. No doubt Arrow made it a solid ride. The supports alone are huge! Compare that to Fury where parts of the track wobble. 

My latest ride on it was noticeably rough as if one set of wheels were worn down. It was jerking forwards and backwards.

Even then, Chessington can’t afford to lose Vampire.

 

That's deliberate, steel needs to have some give in it, otherwise it could be problematic...

 

Even Nemesis' track bends, particularly after the zero-g...

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I think vampire would definitely benefit from another refurbishment. 

 

Tidy up/enhance the queue line, upgrade the trains, make the station actually gothic and atmospheric again instead of the cheap school disco look it currently has. 

 

I do wonder what tie furthest changes they could do to the ride that wouldn’t require planning? Retractking would be nice if they could get away with it. 

 

Unless the blocks can adjusted/reworked, I cannot see it ever running three trains ever again. Not with the now over complicated procedures and the fact that the media making a stopped train to be much worse than it actually is. I'm not sure if the original Bat Cars all stacked up before the station. 

 

Fury being the first coaster to leave is interesting but not surprising, especially seeing as it was only ever supposed to be temporary and does not look as sturdy either. 

 

It certainly seems the pre-1998 hardware was designed to last much longer than some of the newer ones like Land Of The Dragons.

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On 6/19/2018 at 8:22 AM, Benin said:

 

That's deliberate, steel needs to have some give in it, otherwise it could be problematic...

 

Even Nemesis' track bends, particularly after the zero-g...

It may well be deliberate, I'm merely observing that it flaps back and fourth whereas Vamire's supports are solid.

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Course those are solid, they're about 3x the diameter...

 

To minimise the flex you need to compensate... Add in Arrow and their tendency to over engineer everything and there's a massive difference in design... Plus obviously the massive changes in technology allow different things to be done in terms of getting away with certain designs because you can check it all on a CAD program in a hour or so...

 

If Fury's lift hill didn't wobble it would do much more damage...

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The wobbling of fury will result in metal fatigue which will make the life span of the ride significantly shorter than vampire. Although it would have been designed with a shorter lifespan anyway so the wobbling will have been deemed acceptable.

 

One of the main differences in design will be that fury would have been designed in accordance to the eurocodes where as vampire would have had to follow the older British standard which was far more conservative in its saftey factors and so would be a far more solid structure.

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Can I get a fact check on that please, all the Arrow suspended have giant support systems whereas all the Maurer spinners have thin bendy supports. Thats surely just a manufacturer 'thing' and nothing to do with a countries particular demands or safety regimes. 

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Any modern day design to be used in the UK has to work within BOTH EN and BS legislation... This goes for pretty much every industry...

 

I would suggest that it is a manufacturer thing, and that comparing design and construction methods of a 15 year gap is completely different... Vampire probably was hand drawn calculations to ensure it worked correctly...

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For structural engineering we currently use the BS EN 1993 for steel structures. Which is the European standards with the British national annex. The old British standard was more conservative and so the load calculations would have to deal with greater values (EN BS 1993 1-1 the partial safety factor for steel is 1 due to high control over steel manufacturing where as the old method had a combined saftey factor of 3, I believe). The thing with the suspended coasters is that the supports would suffer very large bending moments due to the distance from the train whereas a ride like fury has a small load directly above the support so buckling or axial loading would likely be the failure mode.

 

Manufacturing choice would also be a difference between the 2 as more modern supports are far harder to manufacture than a steel tube with an I beam on top.

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3 minutes ago, EpicSmatty said:

The pianist is moving once again!

I mean, I don't think he ever actually stopped. For more than like half a minute anyway.

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2 hours ago, ChessingtonSam said:

I mean, I don't think he ever actually stopped. For more than like half a minute anyway.

He's not been moving for at least 2 months from what I've seen

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Just now, EpicSmatty said:

He's not been moving for at least 2 months from what I've seen

He has been, but extremely slowly 😂 if you focus on him for ages you'll see him move

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43 minutes ago, Coaster said:

The bad news is he'll probably be replaced with an emoji for the summer...

 

This actually made me laugh out loud - thank you 😂

 

Which emoji? 💩

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