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For all discussion computers!I ordered a new laptop today, For a scary moment I was *almost* considered a mac, and even looked at the apple store! But went for a Dell, for around £150 cheaper than the base model iBook I think it was I managed to get a decent spec, it has some nifty features such as backlit keyboard and a finger print reader thing to replace passwords! Very nifty imo!Just got to wait for it to be built now :(!

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So a program has never froze? Hung? Unexpectedly quit? Lagged? Committed a pretty suicide? Lies!Marc got MicroPwnedSoft.

A program crashing is not the operating system dip ****.If somone makes a program, which is unstable and the program crash's is that window's fault? :(

I agree with the Mac boys, my laptops crashed gods know how many times.

Its full of god knows what, I dont blame it! :(
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Windows and OS X handle applications very differently. If a program hangs on Windows, it's likely that it'll affect the whole system, as in it'll freeze stuck on that program, the task bar comes unresponsive, the window turns white, yadayada it's pretty nasty. If a program crashes on OS X, only that program is affected, the system is still responsive and tasks can be carried on. This is because it's built on UNIX which allows multi-thread processes (windows can to an extent, but isn't graceful at all), and some other wicked s**t. So don't call me a dip s**t.

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When that piss poorly ported itunes hangs up on my vista is perfectly able to kill the itunes process and that process only.. Thats bollocks my dear, it really is. What you may be thinking about is when an application goes mad, uses up 100% CPU, then of course windows cant do much without any processing power (not windows's fault), but thank for for dual/quad core meaning them days are over!

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I'm afraid it isn't bollocks, take it from someone who is doing computer science. UNIX and Windows are very very very very different under the hood. Think of it this way. UNIX makes an allocated space for each application, its own environment for that application. It says to the application, ok you can have X amount of CPU, RAM, etc. If the application goes crazy, it can't take any more resources than what UNIX has allocated to it, it can only have more resources if the application asks for it, and since it's frozen, it can't ask for more, so the program quits.Winodws however, it's a free reign, the application can take as much resources as it likes, so when it does crazy, your CPU shoots up, causing the entire system to hang. Windows is very poor handling resources. It's not being a MacBumBoy, it's the basic facts, and fundamental differences between UNIX and Windows.

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So that can be a good or bad thing correct? If I run a program, but its sitting idle, its still using the amount of resources it would if it was running full wack? Like it or not, I cant remember the last time I had a Windows pc crash on more, nore a application take down the OS.

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Urr no, I gave you a very loose example. In reality it'll be doing a whole lot more, monitoring activity on that application, checking if it's performing tasks, how long it's been idle, do other applications require those resources, etc etc. And good for you, but for me just last night when I was testing a site in IE7 it crashed, then RCT3 hung, I couldn't kill the process cos the CPU was at full whack and so couldn't open the task manager, leading me to a hard restart. Great that Windows works for you, it's fab you love it, but we love Macs. This topic was asking who had a Mac, not who had a Windows.

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A mac is the same as a windows pc, it uses the same intel core 2 duos, same ram, the question should have been who runs the OSX operating system really. And if your going to be going on to dodgy porn sites or what ever when running a hugely intensive program then your asking for trouble. Wuna give me the link to the site you were on, ill happily prove you wrong and that its obviously a user error.

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