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1 hour ago, daboywunda said:

Any-one willing to leak you the official ride document would be in serious breach surmounting to Gross Misconduct; I'd be surprised if any-one will reach out to you with it or if they even have it on their person as in some cases / rides / parks / sessions they are signed out and in again within a classroom setting..

He was joking.

 

Also the health and safety manual contains no secretive information, simply how to operate the ride. They're not signed out/in, and they don't give you the magic ability to operate the ride, you still need the key.

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10 minutes ago, EpicSmatty said:

They're not signed out/in

Then you obviously know something I don't.. Or the other way around. Either way, that statement is incorrect.

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1 hour ago, EpicSmatty said:

He was joking.

 

Also the health and safety manual contains no secretive information, simply how to operate the ride. They're not signed out/in, and they don't give you the magic ability to operate the ride, you still need the key.

 

58 minutes ago, daboywunda said:

Then you obviously know something I don't.. Or the other way around. Either way, that statement is incorrect.

Health and Safety documents such as COSWPs (Code of Safe Working Practices) can be printed out any number of times and given to any number staff at any one time. When printed, they live in a sort of uncontrolled state (in the sense that they cannot be edited after being printed). So it makes sense for there to be very few printed out to ensure that new versions don't get muddled.

 

When staff have them to be trained from / to read over, they sign a document to say what COSWP they're reading, what version they're reading and what times they read it from and to. This sort of thing is rarely done in a classroom setting though.

 

So in that sense, they're 'signed in and out'. But it's more in the sense that there's a paper trail that shows where any copies would have been at any given time, rather than a central document .

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3 minutes ago, JoshC. said:

In that sense, they're 'signed in and out'. But it's more in the sense that they're a paper trail that shows where any copies would have been at any given time, rather than a central document.

Just to add clarification to that, the signing is only to prove that the staff member has done the necessary training to work on the ride, rather than keep track of where the documents are. If there's not enough copies or they go missing, they just print more.

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Just now, EpicSmatty said:

Just to add clarification to that, the signing is only to prove that the staff member has done the necessary training to work on the ride, rather than keep track of where the documents are. If there's not enough copies or they go missing, they just print more.

Indeed, that is true. But in can be used for as a paper trail too if needs be.

 

Ideally, there shouldn't be many copies printed and a missing copy shouldn't be shrugged off as nothing, but what happens in an ideal world isn't always reality!

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50 minutes ago, JoshC. said:

When printed, they live in a sort of uncontrolled state

And just to build on that.. in a perfect world, they are meant to be counted out and back in too; no paper copies should ever be left unaccounted for. Granted, this doesn't always happen, but every effort to keep them accounted for should be practiced at every opportunity (as Josh clarifies in the later post than this quoted one).

 

Digitalisation of these documents is possible and causes an obvious issue; but a watermark such as "not for publication, internal use only" opens the "leaker" to prosecution instead.

 

While they do not contain anything secret or damaging, it is not something that you want to have in the hands of a media outlet looking to create a story where they can - so due diligence is always the practice when it comes to these documents - hence my original point of the "leaker" being held accountable, making them relatively hard to come by and "more than their job is worth" than to leak.

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On 1/5/2020 at 12:04 AM, Ivsetti said:

Following on from the subject of appalling rule-enforcement we go on to one a bit more serious: 

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This (luckily empty) seat clearly has an unbuckled seat belt as the ride goes up. This again (like the Stealth video I posted earlier) is an extremely shocking breach of basic Health and Safety regulations from the park. Sourced from a video of the ride. Whilst one can argue the seat belt does nothing the implications of this are clear - the park's H&S standards are slipping even though The Smiler accident was a short few years ago.

One wonders what other H&S rules are being breached - Nemesis Inferno's supports for example show clear signs of rust as well as areas of peeled paint which haven't been repainted which is a major major major potential structural hazard. 

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Stop being so extra 

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