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Besides it being impossible, there’d be absolutely no benefit to running more than two. Offload often takes longer to clear than the load station, delaying dispatches. This would be the exact same on three trains, just with an extra train stacked behind the offload platform. 

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I believe one is loading and launched, the second is unloading then loading, and the third is swapped off for maintenance to always keep two running.

If you want a good example of when more trains isn’t always better, look at Dragon’s Fury at Chessie or as I like to call it “Stacker: the ride”.

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I misread that as pants. My apologies.

 

TTD in Cedar Point can run five trains at once, however that would never work on Stealth, as they would need to create a bigger station and launch area to accommodate for all of that. Even then, it would probably only still be able to run 3/4 trains at a time anyway.

 

Still better capacity than Red Force though.

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Stealths third train is for maintenance, due to the intense complexity of the ride, its impractical to overhaul/check/maintain the track, launch system, electronics and 2 trains.  so to ease the burden on the staff the third train is overhauled during the open season in slow time, this means they only need to do one train in closed season as well as the rest of the ride. 

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It is listed here: https://www.merlinannualpass.co.uk/passholder-hub/events/march-2019/thorpe-park-resort-passholder-day-23rd-march

 

In fairness, there's usually multiple closed rides on the Annual Pass Preview Day. In saying that, the park have had a longer closed season this year, so swings and roundabouts really.

 

I am also under the impression that this year, the Annual Pass Preview Day is also the same as the Friends and Family day for staff. In the past, the Friends and Family day was on a Saturday, with the AP day on the Sunday.

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What is this friends and family day and how would that even work do they just get the workers to man the rides whilst they watch their smiling friends go round and round on the rides because that is the definition of torture.

Realistically though, low temperatures and high wind speeds will shut most of the big rides (I think/ hope not) next week if the weather forecast stays the same till next weekend. 

 

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That's strange, as it's showing as open on the event page for Annual Pass day.

 

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https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/2019-pre-season-day-at-thorpe-park-resort-tickets-56342094722

 

It probably isn't a huge issue for a coaster to be down for Annual Pass day provided that it's ready when the main season kicks in.  However, it's poor to false advertise that the ride can be enjoyed on Annual Pass day if that isn't the case.  It's all well and good saying it's a free event, an extra that they don't have to do, but if you look further down they're actively promoting the hotel, so essentially people could be booking hotel rooms and planning to visit on the basis that it'll be open when that might not be correct.

 

I think it's probably a bit silly to list any rides as being available on there, considering the unpredictability of season starts in recent years and the fact that they couldn't guarantee any ride being available at the time of making the booking page public.

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6 minutes ago, Ivsetti said:

What is this friends and family day and how would that even work do they just get the workers to man the rides whilst they watch their smiling friends go round and round on the rides because that is the definition of torture.

Realistically though, low temperatures and high wind speeds will shut most of the big rides (I think/ hope not) next week if the weather forecast stays the same till next weekend. 

 

Friends and Family day in the past has basically just been a preview / test day. Some Merlin staff are given tickets which they can either use themselves (if they're not working of course) or give to their friends and family.

 

The idea is that it gives staff a reasonably pressure-free day to get used to their roles, since everyone is there for a free day. It also helps iron out any small issues. It's normally extremely limited capacity too.

 

Why they've decided to mix that day with AP day is anyone's guess.

 

6 minutes ago, Coaster said:

Not that I really care, but pretty poor to false advertise either way

I imagine it just hasn't been updated yet. Eventbrite can sometimes be trickier to update than their own websites.

 

I think they usually send a notification before the event too, which gives a final update of unavailable rides? So I'd say as long as it's updated by then, it's not that bad. Just unfortunate that the ride that is unavailable is one their headliners.

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20 hours ago, MattyMoo said:

Stealth won't be open for the friends and family day on 23rd March...

 

As we know, Annual Pass holders are the most considerate, open minded and tolerant of Thorpe Parks guests. They will be completely fine with Stealth and Quantum being closed.

 

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Crap.

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17 hours ago, Ivsetti said:

What is this friends and family day and how would that even work do they just get the workers to man the rides whilst they watch their smiling friends go round and round on the rides because that is the definition of torture.

Realistically though, low temperatures and high wind speeds will shut most of the big rides (I think/ hope not) next week if the weather forecast stays the same till next weekend. 

 

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People do work in other parts of the business. Not every cleaner or back office staff is a trained ride operator.

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2 hours ago, Glitch said:

Not every cleaner or back office staff is a trained ride operator.

Cleaning a pathway when suddenly you look up to see your friend gasping as they're flipped 180 degrees on the first inversion on Swarm.

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20 hours ago, JoshC. said:

Why they've decided to mix that day with AP day is anyone's guess.

It doesn't take a genius, it's to save money obviously. It might be a free day for the guest, but it still costs money to open and run the park. 

 

That said, it seems silly to merge them, the expectation of a friends and family guest would be not to see several thousand entitled MAP holders brandishing their bright yellow lanyards everywhere. 

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1 hour ago, StevenVig said:

It doesn't take a genius, it's to save money obviously. It might be a free day for the guest, but it still costs money to open and run the park. 

 

That said, it seems silly to merge them, the expectation of a friends and family guest would be not to see several thousand entitled MAP holders brandishing their bright yellow lanyards everywhere. 

Not forgetting those silver coloured ones expecting fastrack when they can pull themselves away from the hospitality marquee.

 

But apart from cost cutting it really is madness to mix the event with staff & pass holders 

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2 hours ago, StevenVig said:

It doesn't take a genius, it's to save money obviously. It might be a free day for the guest, but it still costs money to open and run the park. 

 

That said, it seems silly to merge them, the expectation of a friends and family guest would be not to see several thousand entitled MAP holders brandishing their bright yellow lanyards everywhere. 

I have no problem with it. At the end of the day it's a preview day, perhaps this year they have taken the option of renting the park out for a day instead.

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Very disappointing to see Stealth closed as this now means MattyMoo can’t experience it, and potentially close it for several months after. 

 

I used to think the MAPS were generally more forgiving and tolerant on such issues once. I guess I have spent too much time in Cloud Cuckoo Land

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2 hours ago, StevenVig said:

It doesn't take a genius, it's to save money obviously. It might be a free day for the guest, but it still costs money to open and run the park. 

But surely 'to save money' makes little sense?

 

The park have a vested interest in having two previews rather than one. Friends and Family day is basically a pass if anything goes wrong, and AP day puts things into perspective more. If they want to save money, just shut on another weekday in May or September.

 

I'm not saying it's not the reason, but if it is the reason, it makes very little sense.

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On 3/15/2019 at 4:46 PM, Glitch said:

perhaps this year they have taken the option of renting the park out for a day instead.

Who would have rented out the park? Friends & Family Day and AP Day are both run and operated by THORPE PARK Resort........

On 3/15/2019 at 5:19 PM, JoshC. said:

just shut on another weekday in May or September.

And have tonnes of entitled MAP Holders and coaster geeks slam the park for reducing the number of days they're open 🤣

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1 hour ago, StevenVig said:

And have tonnes of entitled MAP Holders and coaster geeks slam the park for reducing the number of days they're open 🤣

Arguably better to give them a dedicated day at the start of the year after they've had a chance to iron out a couple of teething issues and be closed for a random midweek day than give them a dedicated day on their first operating day when things will inevitably go wrong and be open for a random midweek day (when few MAP holders will visit).

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