Chessiekid Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 A 50% allocation!? surely it's not that much. When its busy they go up to 50%, I've seen it happen at Rattlesnake aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry-go-girl Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I'm really hoping that should be reserve and they haven't done a Swarm on it! Auto-correct. Because if life wasn't full of enough spelling mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Fastrack on Skyway? Merlin, you don't have to keep giving me reasons to not care about me lack of renewing my MAP, you've done enough already... MattyMoo and Kerfuffle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HermanTheGerman Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Using the exit is a disastrous idea in so many ways. Out of curiosity, what's an estimated throughput for Skyway these days? 480pph, on a really good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Yes but 480 per hour is calculated using all 11 trains, 4 of which are sat in pieces in the maintenance bay. How does Fastrack on Skyway work? Good question, it doesn't. Thank goodness hardly anyone knows about it or buys it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Chessington really need to focus on improving throughput on their rides, if that means new ride systems then they need to make the expenditure. 480pph is dire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessiekid Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 480pph is dire. Belive it or not, that is one of the higher throughputs across the park. lewumbrajumbos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I gave Thorpe a hard time with the swarm being 1200 rather than what they needed of 1700. I'm glad I don't take much interest in chessington. If a park has problems with queues no new addition should even be considered if it has a throughput lower than 600pph. I know the skyway is old but it needs updating so it actually goes round the zoo, they may as well just get a completely new ride to replace it. Would solve the downtime, would improve the throughput and would allow them to install a proper fastrack queue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Even Legoland is (now) better at throughputs than Chessington. Compare this: Legoland Atlantis 1200 Viking River Splash 1200 Jolly Rocker 1000 Dragon 900 (3 train) Pirate Falls 700 Laser Raiders 500 VS Chessington Falls 1000 Tombs 600 Fury 550 Bubbles 600 Zufari unknown Rattlesnake 350 Scorpion 500 Legoland isn't perfect but does seem to have better throughputs these days (says a lot ImO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Fury used to be aimed at 600-700 an hour too... It's depressing to see their new throughput goals in the op boxes, given that there's usually a few hundred chalked off the majority of rides... So many rides there have needed replacing with better throughput ones for YEARS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 This is the thing right, they aren't even trying. Back in the years of the throughput challenges, Tomb Blaster was aiming for 1000pph and sometimes it actually made it, most of the time it got very close. Same with rides like Rattle, Fury, Falls and Runaway, they were all being pushed to get through as many people as possible. Now it's like they are aiming low deliberately so visiting on a quiet day is the only real option anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJ Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Well it's a shame you get that impression because there are still throughout challenges, just the rides in my experience are so knackered that they really struggle, or restrictions are imposed by engineers to overcome problems meaning max throughout is impossible most of the time. Attendants still try very hard but doesn't help when you get added difficulties stuff like an ad hoc single rider queue on Fury, or too much Fastrack being sold. The huge problem is the park was built when there were FAR less daily numbers coming into the park, and then there was no expansion for 20 years. Chessiekid and pognoi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 The huge problem is the park was built when there were FAR less daily numbers coming into the park, and then there was no expansion for 20 years. You've just described the entire County down to a tee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Are parks in this country really so poor that people think queueing an hour for Monkey Swinger is in any way acceptable? It baffles me that a park can be so mediocre for so long and yet it seems to have no impact on visitor numbers. MattyMoo, Project LC, Ian-S and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 To me it implies a lack of competition in the market. You want to go to a theme park of medium thrill in the south east. Due to there being very little competition they have the choice of CWOA or pretty much nothing. The other competitors (of which there are not many in the first place) are too small and as a result cant advertise like COWA can. The same can be said for Thorpe apart from that literally has no competitors which offers a place of big thrills. What should be happening is Thorpe, CWOA and Legoland should all be competing against each other. But they are owned by the Merlin monopoly so the market doesn't work. As a result merlin can do almost anything they like and they will still get customers. Ian-S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Plus quite often you won't see more than one merlin park each year install something big (though that said the last big merlin ride in the uk we saw was during 2013). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pognoi Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 You sort of forgot Gardaland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Sorry should have made it clear that I was referring to the UK as a place for a day trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry-go-girl Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 If Paramount London does come to light it should have a very interesting affect on Merlin's parks. Competition like they've never seen before. Celia Mae 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 ^ You're assuming Paramount won't have the same corporate outlook, if there's anything I've learnt over the years, don't expect a new entrant into a market to shake it up, they are far more likely to toe the existing party line, especially if they see that existing heavyweights have got away with screwing their customers year on year (just look at the domestic electric and gas supplies in this Country which is also a captive audience, the supply chain was opened up to create competition, in effect all it did was create cartels as none of the competitors offer radically different packages from each other, 'new' suppliers don't massively undercut the existing suppliers, even though they can because it's not good practice to undersell yourself too much). The only thing Paramount will bring is an alternative place for us to go that's not owned by Merlin, us Southerns are seriously lacking in non-Merlin owned parks, Paultons is the only one (easily accessible for South of River residents) of any consequence and that only has 2 decent roller coasters. In other news, anyone considering a trip to Chessie on 15th May don't bother, the place will be overrun with hundreds of unrulely hyperactive school kids that day (my son's school has their annual visit). JamminGamer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merry-go-girl Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Unless Paramount build their park using nothing but second (or third) hand materials from old rundown theme parks they'll already be miles ahead of Merlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis. Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 ‘No compassion’ for disabled boy not allowed on rides at theme park because of his condition http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/12890397.___No_compassion____for_disabled_boy_not_allowed_on_rides_at_theme_park_because_of_his_condition/ It's been a couple of years since I visited any Merlin attraction so correct me if I'm wrong but does it not clearly state in the guidelines that people without the use of their legs cannot ride? As a disabled person I've never felt anything but welcomed by the staff so her shaking the discrimination tree seems a bit strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 In that article the use of the word 'discrimination' is a load of tosh. The park are just keeping him safe, and if something like a breakdown happens, he wouldn't be able to get to the exit without his mother carrying him. As Lewish said, the staff are perfectly fine to people like my brother in the disabled line, not 'discriminating' at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 They do state it in multiple locations (admittedly most being in the park) that you need to be able to walk short distances for most rides for evacuation purposes. If it did stop on a lift hill and they had to get you off it suddenly becomes a major problem. I can understand that they would be annoyed and that they should make it clear on their website rather than the ride entrance however to play the discrimination card is a bit extreme, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celia Mae Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Some people will just use the word discrimination at any point to get sympathy. What strikes ME as strange is that surely she would have thought about this beforehand? Theme park rides are notorious for breaking down, and as Thorpeparkfreak said he wouldn't be able to get out if the ride did happen to stop. Merry-go-girl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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