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6 minutes ago, Matt N said:

One thing I'd say there is that all of the examples you cite were purchased under Tussauds, whereas the parks now are owned by Merlin. Even though the firms are similar, they will differ in many ways, and I'd wager that this policy is one of those ways.

 

As for when the policy was implemented, I'm not 100% sure. I'm not even 100% sure that it's a policy, but I definitely seem to remember someone in the know saying it once. I think they said it had something to do with the Smiler incident and wanting to be 100% sure that all rides met the corporate safety and maintenance standard or something like that (they wouldn't have been 100% sure with a second hand ride bought from outside the group), if I'm remembering correctly.

@Matt N that makes sense that policies have been changed following The Smiler accident. Buying second hand rides could be risky. A Theme Park could sell a ride due to an accident or breakdown. Surly when selling rides don’t Theme Parks have to inform the seller of any incidents involving the ride. Saying this  don’t sellers I.E Interlink service rides and get them expected by H&E professionals. If the latter happens purchasing a second hand ride could be safer than buying a new ride. For instance The Smiler,which was brand new,has endured many incidents, whereas Billy’s Wizzer (Monkey Swinger) which is second hand hasn’t had one. Second hand rides are probably inspected. On the other hand new rides are manufactured and sent. Personally I’d feel more comfortable purchasing a second hand ride. They’re vigorously tested and have worked at a Theme Park prior.

 

 I do see Merlin’s logic,although in some cases their reasoning is wrong.

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Just now, Theme Park Fanatic said:

@Matt N that makes sense that policies have been changed following The Smiler accident. Buying second hand rides could be risky. A Theme Park could sell a ride due to an accident or breakdown. Surly when selling rides don’t Theme Parks have to inform the seller of any incidents involving the ride. Saying this  don’t sellers I.E Interlink service rides and get them expected by H&E professionals. If the latter happens purchasing a second hand ride could be safer than buying a new ride. For instance The Smiler,which was brand new,has endured many incidents, whereas Billy’s Wizzer (Monkey Swinger) which is second hand hasn’t had one. Second hand rides are probably inspected. On the other hand new rides are manufactured and sent. Personally I’d feel more comfortable purchasing a second hand ride. They’re vigorously tested and have worked at a Theme Park prior.

 

 I do see Merlin’s logic,although in some cases their reasoning is wrong.

Interlink could well have a different standard of H&S/maintenance to Merlin's internal standard. I can understand Merlin's skepticism around second hand rides from outside the group, particularly post-Smiler. I'm sure they're perfectly safe, but it probably isn't worth the risk.

 

One thing I'd say with regard to your Smiler vs Monkey Swinger comparison is that correlation does not necessarily equal causation. By that, I mean that just because Smiler has had more incidents than Monkey Swinger, that does not mean that all new rides have more incidents than all second hand rides.

 

Surely a new ride would be more heavily tested than a second hand one, no? Surely the manufacturer will have manufactured and tested every element of it with perfect precision, and as it's brand new, the components will have no wear and tear (unlike those of a second hand ride), which in theory decreases the chance of an accident or malfunction?

 

Sorry, moderators... I'm conscious of the fact that I'm going off on a bit of a tangent here.

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20 hours ago, MattyMoo said:

Thoughts and prayers for anyone currently at Alton Towers...

 

 

 

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WickerMan appears to have some sort of chain/lift issue yesterday morning and has been down since. Really not a good end to a pretty awful year for Towers...

 

Thanks MattyMoo, they helped me get through the day. Nemesis is the saving grace of this park so when even that is down, you can just tell the park needs to sort itself out.

 

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21 hours ago, MattyMoo said:

Thoughts and prayers for anyone currently at Alton Towers...

 

 

 

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WickerMan appears to have some sort of chain/lift issue yesterday morning and has been down since. Really not a good end to a pretty awful year for Towers...

 

Wanted to try to get one last trip to Towers before the end of the season but don't think I'll bother if they don't manage to get Wicker Man sorted beforehand 😭

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I understand the weather wasn't much cop yesterday which didn't help matters but even so... pretty horrific. WickerMan is bad timing I suppose but this just screams to me that they need decent filler attractions & flats - and ideally not flats that are fairground rides that aren't used to such long and rigorous operation.

 

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