The Gas ball wont be coming back, the costs involved are just too great to justify, its not just the flame equipment that needs stripping and overhauling but the pipes that feed the gas have corroded through thanks to the chlorinated water, The water tower however, is a more likely option.

I wish they could install the the electric pilons/wires so they make an electric spark now and then to make it look like its only just been knocked down!

X desperately needs a retheme. A full blown, spectacular "new ride" "new theme" retheme. Adding a video and music that got turned off after a year is not a retheme.The robots/computer setting needs to be drastically developed. The indoor queueline has massive potential, and there is quite enough room on ride to build sets and effects. The only way I can see this being loved is as a dark ride/coaster mix, like Revenge of the Mummy at Universal Studios. No work needs to be done on the actual ride, since it works fine doesn't it? And then all the budget can be spent on effects (proper visual effects, not just fans and mist), lighting, set design, theming.That is what I think X needs. Whenever I see all those people lining up for it expecting a great coaster in the dark, I feel sorry for them. Because the ride on the inside is a terrible waste of all this potential for something good. Please Thorpe Park, X No Way Out could be a really cool and unique ride experience, but it is not loved. Don't let it rot.

I feel x needs to have effects such as compressed air in the indoor queue and I feel mainly storbes need to be put in the main ride, the x queue has great potential for halloween as well I feel.

what I'm saying by friends is that its what most people I hear say and people who go to fright nights usually only come for the horror mazes so its a captive audience of those wanting to be scared and that is in the minority to the average day at thorpe park where there are much fewer who want to get scared.

All Merlin parks have daily morning briefings and evening de-briefings. This is where staff are given feedback from the previous day and usually games designed to help motivate the team. On top of this all staff have to attend an intensive induction which they have to complete before they start work. This gives them park information and training in customer service. Though there is more that can be done.Not having worked at Thorpe, I can't really speak on behalf of the staff there. At Chessington though, last year I think they had the balance just right for the rides department; teams weren't too big, which meant you would get really close with your team mates, my area in particular also had some great team leaders who worked their butts off to make sure we were having a good day. We would do morning games and if we weren't too tired in the evening we'd do evening games as well. Hide and seek! We had great area socials, and a lot of the time our Team Leaders would do things for us out of their own pockets.Sorry, going off on a tangent- I think Thorpe have the problem of the clientèle. The amount of times I've seen the staff there being spoken to like a piece of dirt; they spoil it for the rest of the general public who treat the staff with respect and aren't receiving the best customer service.There are ways the park could help (though I must admit I've rarely experienced bad customer service since 2008), having a more thorough incentive scheme being at the heart of it. Taking a page out of Holiday World's book, guests should be given tokens (just as an example- could be anything) which can be handed over to staff who have provided excellent customer service. I think the parks do something similar but this should be everyday.However, what I've found is that guests will either give it to the staff members at their first ride, or realize they still have it at the end of the day and just give it to anyone to get rid of it. The way to get round this would be to have these tokens in shops, at till points, in guest services, ride photo points. Of course this would involve trusting the staff not to just take them. Each department could be given a budget each month. The more tokens, the better the prize.Just a suggestion anyway. As you can see I'm really passionate about this sort of thing. Of course this is a more elaborate way, there are many small ways which could help improve staff motivation and morale and therefore customer service.

there just a completely diferent sort of staff to Alton towers where they always ask you how your day is etc. Plus it looks like your a staff member or were at chessington if so how hard was it to get a Job there and if your looking for a higher place should you start at the bottom and work your way up the ranks???

1. The money comes from where? 2. The benches would not work on most rides. 3. The permanent audience wouldn't work because it would once again be too costly and most of the shows they get have other things to do during the year plus it creates better publicity for the park IE special appearences. As for the smoking, it doesnt actually work because most the time the operators and platformers are too busy with guest safety then to bother with smoking. Queue jumpings another thing that does work.

what I'm getting at is Disney have shows and parades everyday and thorpe need that especially throughout main school holidays plus they always moan at guests sitting on the queue line fences I say the next new ride they half the usual height of the queue line fences and turn the other half horoizontal just saying.and thats what I mean they do stop smokers and queue jumpers especially in the clever design of the stealth queue!

Thorpe park could be improved by giving the staff a pep talk so that they are friendly to the guests much like alton towers, themeing needs to work again I cant believe how demoralised I feel after seeing something that should be going for my pleasure, queue should always be fitted with long benches for the really long queues e.g 2 hours+, the staff need to work quicker because many times I have seen them just talking to there co worker rather than letting you get on the ride! thorpe park need to add a permentant all audince show and you only need it on once a day why not hire the stunt show throughout the season (except halloween obviously)the great thing about thorpe is they keep to there word about smoking in the queues lines which I applaud fantastic rule works aswell as the queue jumping well done!

Always go to Pizza hut when in the park plus always say I will to samurai this time no matter how long the queue then never do!

What ever happened to all the smoke belowing out of the nemesis volcano and plus why do the very rarley use the stealth smoke when at alton rita always has it going!

Are people bored of this already! Today after 5pm there was no queue for Saw Alive, this is the first time I have seen this and the park wasn't even quiet! I really cannot see this lasting.

many of my friends that have been to thorpe this year said they did everyting except for saw alive the said they were to scared. so a clear message is here that people only want to be scared at halloween at thorpe park it seems

Just because the gates are not higher dont mean the attraction cant be popular. It was dead by 5:00 on Sunday too

thats what we were saying saw alive has not brought in the punters unlike saw the ride or say th13teen has at alton towers

The queue is no longer busy when the water reaches the splash zone if it does that people will just wait there rather than wait 2 hours I feel plus all it is is one hill which you can just wait at the splash zone for!

I went to the VIP evening of th13teen it was incredible got to see my hero John wardley and also got to speak to the events manager of Alton towers the technology behined th13teen is amazing the towers is so far down I belive it was around 10 stories down underground yet you only drop 5 meters! The ride its self is fun and definitly a family coaster but its a x no way out thrill to us and th13teen is 1.2m so should x no way out so its a fair ride for a family audience and the drop is spectacular to first time riders of any age screaming because I think its everyones nightmare to leave or drop from the track on a Rollercoaster.

It probably could be made portable, but when the ride is lifted to the top of the tower, it uses compressed air and the tanks are massive (they are the same size as the ones next to rush but are layed down to the left of slammer in an enclosure). S&S power don't make portable rides, but they could well start to make them! One company that do make portable rides powered by compressed air are SAFECO rides.

it doesent have to be compressed air I suppose it could be a simple cable pulling passengers up but the only problem with that is you could not hold as many people as compressed air would!

This is probably in the wrong column but I kept thinking this design could be made portabel for funfairs if you made it smaller what do you guys think.I only have one problem with slammer and that is the slow loading but I dont know weather thats the staff or the ride itself.

I prefer sticking my head foreward on the ride and it becomes a lot more fun plus x no wayout need more effects like space mountain at DLRP. they need strobes and very loud music etc..

the maze is clever considering saw is not a horror film more of a gore film its a shame its popularity is not as intense as thorpe park obviously preddicted looking at the queue never being used.