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  2. JoshC.

    Legoland

    The new kid cred for next year has had a slight name change, and will be called Duplo Dino Coaster rather than Duplo Dream Coaster... https://www.legoland.co.uk/DUPLO2020
  3. But you've looked in this topic too so must be thinking the same 😂
  4. JoshuaA

    Thorpe Park 2020

    Some parks don't have to. I don't like Europa Park because of its coaster lineup, I like it because the food, atmosphere, and shows make it such a magical experience. With Thorpe's case I would consider it more of an amusement park, so the coaster lineup is more important considering most rides (barring Swarm which has top tier theming) not many rides at Thorpe have theming or charm. I would compare the park more to a Six Flags Park than anything else (with those parks it isn't like your going for atmosphere..) Its not the quantity, its the quality. And Abyss isn't a clone (my bad) though it is pretty much the same ride (very minor differences). Dramatic much? . It is my opinion that Thorpe do not have a stand out coaster for ENTHUSIASTS. The lineup is great, it has 5 very solid coasters, but I would consider none of them anything overly exceptional and something I would go out my way for if I didn't live so near. Is that so wrong of a opinion to have? I'm not calling the lineup bad, I just don't feel there is a clear #1 there. I love Inferno, I love stealth, but I'm gonna admit I don't see them as something to write home about. Because its a theme park, and theme park have roller coasters. And we rank them, because we are enthusiasts and we do lists. Some coasters we get off and we say "that was good, solid", some we get off and say "that was actually unreal, I need to get back into the queue". None of the rides at Thorpe make me actively make me want to do the latter. Us enthusiasts also compare theme parks to others, and therefor we compare park lineups to each other.
  5. A nice graphic highlighting how much of the ride has been completed:
  6. The Junker 2.0 rumour train gains some steam.. (link here, original source unknown) Some speculation this could end up including a lift hill and drop similar to Takabisha (Fuji-Q Highland) and TMNT Shellraiser (American Dream, NJ). Either way, if this is an extension, it'll arguably be the craziest thing to happen in the industry in living memory...
  7. JoshC.

    Thorpe Park 2020

    I don't see why this is being treated as a negative? Not every park has to have a Top 10 worthy coaster... Honestly, this is one of the most spoilt comments I've seen with regards to theme parks. "Thorpe ONLY has 2 B&Ms, 2 Intamins and a Gerstlauer, it's not complete". So many parks would kill to have that sort of line up. (NB: Saw doesn't have a clone, just a ride which has inspired it, and the other two were firsts of their exact layouts...). Saying Towers has 3 elite coasters is very much a stretch too.. This is the big issue, yes. And they do need to add and improve. But that doesn't really detract from the fact that the park already have a solid basis with some good coasters. Again: why is this an issue?
  8. This is the saddest title to a topic I've ever heard 🙄
  9. Benin

    Thorpe Park 2020

    Oblivion has a better impact than most other Dive Machines and is the shortest. Don't @ me.
  10. Coaster

    Thorpe Park 2020

    Yeah, sort of - I meant that the coasters are short but aren't impressive enough to really have an impact; whereas some short coasters are intense or interesting enough that it doesn't matter that they aren't longer (Inferno for example). I do appreciate it's more of an enthusiast and/or personal opinion thing though.
  11. Except for the Disneyland's and Universal parks, every non-enthusiast person I've spoken to have never heard of any or the parks outside of the UK. Thorpe is a decent park for most people and makes for a good day out, which is what they are looking for.
  12. Benin

    Thorpe Park 2020

    I'll travel for a Wacky Worm in the arse end of France, so not sure where this enthusiast elitism is coming from? Half the guests probably won't know about Cedar Point and the like, does it really detract from their personal enjoyment? I mean the most liked ride by guests at PA is Baco! And 90% of us know that's wrong... Thorpe (and Merlin parks as a whole) have remained pretty stationary over the years in the last decade that's true, but mostly through have consistent expansion the year before and some mismanagement... Several parks in Europe especially have taken advantage of not having much prior to this decade and going "right, this Gerstlauer is cheap but is interesting, let's buy that as our new signature ride", much like Bobbie Jobbie and Walibi Alpes have done... On the other side the likes of Walibi Holland and Phantasialand already had a strong base to begin with, though Phantasialand was more about complete redevelopment of existing areas of the park... Walibi have just chosen two fantastic rides to compliment their pre-existing icon that is Goliath (though Untamed might become the new one)... There's many things to dislike Thorpe for but the ride lineup isn't one of them... Think a lot of this is the realisation that the UK parks have sat still whilst the world adds a higher quality of ride comparatively...
  13. When half a dozen other rides closed? Not sure that's the correct wording haha. I get bored quicker at Towers personally.
  14. JoshuaA

    Thorpe Park 2020

    I rate Stealth too, its a good coaster. But its not something I would go out my way for, especially when Dragster, Ka, Xcelerator, Red Force, and many other better coasters with a similar layout exist. Its a good coaster but by no means top 10, I would rank it similarly to Oblivion at Alton towers, a good ride but nothing worth shouting about. Yeah the lineup is solid, 2 middle of the road B&M's, a decent Intamin launch, a low tier Gerst, and a okay Intamin looper. The last three all have clones.. The lineup isn't bad, but it needs a ICON or a Nemesis to make its lineup truly complete. 5 decent coasters is good, but when you have 5 decent coasters and 3 elite ones a few hours away... I would ride Alton's top 3 over any Thorpe coaster. Sure Tina from tooting might of spent her child maintenance money on getting the train to Chertsey to ride Stealth, but in enthusiast's eyes, its just a smaller version of Ka and Dragster and a much worse version of Xcelerator, Thats the harsh reality. Nemesis and Smiler are rides you can't find anywhere else, some of the best rides in the country (if not the best). You also have the fact of the park not building a coaster since 2012. Smiler and Wickerman have gone to Alton since then, and both coasters have really improved the offering. Thorpe's coaster lineup has been stagnant for seven years which has perhaps has highlighted how none of their coasters are anything worth putting in your top 10.
  15. JoshC.

    Thorpe Park 2020

    To 95% of the public (plus the group of enthusiasts who genuinely rate Stealth), it's a good headliner attraction. That's a good thing, no? There's plenty of parks out there which don't even have a decent coaster. For Thorpe to have 5 decent coasters (regardless of personal opinion, it's hard to argue that any of Thorpe's major coasters aren't "decent"), that's a bloody good job tbh. Plenty of people in the past travelled far and wide for Stealth. This comes back to the issue I mentioned in my previous post - the park haven't kept up with the times of the industry to have that modern headliner, nor have they had a world class coaster that has remained timeless (or even just a record breaker). Not impressive enough in what context? Because there's better coasters out there?
  16. Glitch

    Thorpe Park 2020

    Gosh enthusiasts are hard to please arn't they. Lucky there in the visitor minority.
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  18. Coaster

    Thorpe Park 2020

    I fully agree that Thorpe's coasters are too short and not impressive enough, but it is true that as enthusiasts we have a very different outlook than most visitors. I really rate Nemesis Inferno, it's a ride I have really come to appeciate more in the last few years. It's intense, forceful and just feels like pure quality from start to finish. Stealth - Too short and not impressive enough to justify it (again, more of an enthusiast thing as it is impressive to most guests). Colossus - 10 loops crammed into a short(ish) layout for the sake of it, trains are horrendous. Used to have a good presence with all the landscaping, now a concrete mess. Saw - Poor quality ride experience and can be very uncomfortable. Lots of missing effects, lighting and theming. Swarm - Too short and lumbers around the inversions, doesn't pack a punch. Theming gone to ruin. Walking Dead - Perfectly good as a family coaster, but unsuitable theme makes it inaccessible to families!
  19. Mark9

    Thorpe Park 2020

    That's all that matters if we're brutally honest.
  20. Awesome, feels like I haven't seen you both in forever!
  21. Me and Stuntman will be there - meant to say this about a week or so ago 😆
  22. A bit overblown as a headline. "More people will die on UK theme park rides"
  23. It will be here sooner than you realise though it does seem strange been so close to Thorpe when its closed.
  24. JoshuaA

    Thorpe Park 2020

    To the GP yes, Stealth is one of the tallest and fastest in the UK so obviously to them it is a good headliner attraction. For us enthusiasts though, its nothing more than a decent coaster. Its layout is anything but unique, it has the terrible plastic intamin OTSR, and it just isn't something people will travel to ride.. People travel far to ride the likes of Nemesis and Smiler, Stealth not so much..
  25. Mark9

    Thorpe Park 2020

    Thorpe Park's problems aren't the rides that are already there. If you have Thorpes satisfaction scores, that would be an interesting thing to look at. 😁
  26. The thing with being the best is that there can only be one. And the thing with Inferno is the more unique features such as the pre-lift tunnel, the smoke effects and the actually pretty decent theming make it stand out now to me more then other. At this point I've done quite a few inverters (humble brag) and Inferno always has something about it that makes me happy. Whether it's because it was my first B&M or because it has a certain magic I don't know. I still maintain it should have just been called Inferno, because it just gets endlessly compared to its older sister. IMO it is one of the UK's finest rides and a night ride one of the best experiences.
  27. JoshC.

    Thorpe Park 2020

    Disagree. All things considered, Thorpe's coasters deliver a great thrill for their length. More importantly, I don't think the likes of Colossus, Inferno and Saw would be improved with a longer length. Stealth is designed to be a short and sweet ride, and with its restraints, I don't think a particularly longer ride would add much. The only major coaster that would benefit from being longer is Swarm, but even then, I don't think it's *that* much of an issue. Also, fun fact: Smiler aside, the major coasters at Towers are, on average, the same length as Thorpe's. And their length is rarely complained. I don't think Thorpe lacks a headliner - Stealth fits that role perfectly. The trouble is when we look at big parks across the world which have added major attractions over the past 5 years or so, they've added in fantastic new investments which make use of technology which simply wasn't available 10 years ago. And then these new rides just naturally fit the bill of being a new headliner. So it's not that Thorpe lacks a headliner - for the majority of people who don't know what's out there, they'll still Stealth as a major draw. But when you follow the industry or know it further, you realise that because of the lack of investment for the past few years, the park simply hasn't kept up with modern trends like major parks have.
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