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  2. Coaster

    2018 General Discussion

    Just spotted this; Anyone know if it's free for Premium MAPs? I've no interest in "love island" but was hoping to get some evening rides on Inferno in!
  3. Coaster

    Park Operations

    You mean they've finally sorted the 90 second dispatch times?
  4. Today
  5. BaronC.

    Toverland

    The entrance plaza for Port Laguna is nearing completion and it looks GORGEOUS: https://twitter.com/teamlooopings/status/1009079715683094529?s=19
  6. Ringo

    Project Zero

    It’s certainly the current social teams sort of promotion tactics, deny knowledge but drum up interest then a silence and then emails to those who gave info as the chosen few. Who remebers that “drama” about enthusiasts trying to wreck the parks PR for DBGT as the park had uploaded random images and left them unprotected on the internet and they got noticed and then went on the war path as people started posting them and the park then requesting they were taken down, just to drum up interest... Haven't seen a statement from Thorpe Park stating this project thing isn’t them and that Merlin Pass tweet is obviously someone who doesn’t know and assumed someone was on about the well publicised scam
  7. MattyMoo

    Project Zero

    Thought: If it says "now the legacy begins" - perhaps it's ex-Thorpe employees/creatives/people that are starting their own horror mazes? That would make some sort of sense.
  8. J.S217

    Phantasialand

    Phantasialand is by far one of the best Theme Parks I have ever visited it's the only park, That gets me excited knowing I'm going back there.
  9. Benin

    Vampire

    That's deliberate, steel needs to have some give in it, otherwise it could be problematic... Even Nemesis' track bends, particularly after the zero-g...
  10. Yesterday
  11. streetmagix

    Vampire

    The big difference is that the other swinging suspended coasters still kept their original trains. Vampire had replacement trains a few years ago from Vekoma (who are still in business unlike Arrow). As long as the structure is still sound/can be repaired then it'll stay, it may need a big overhaul at some point in the medium term however.
  12. Stuntman707

    Park Operations

    I think Mack’s shelf flaps is the best bag system I’ve seen. It’s still a compromise. Sure it’s not as safe as a locker or bagroom but it’s easy to retrofit on the platform. Don’t need extra staff like the bagroom and not as much faff as either that or lockers. The shelves are locked when the train departs and only allow access to the same train when it’s back. In regards to turn around, a lot of it is down to the staff, how motivated, how well they work together and how many of them there are. Dragons Fury at Chessington was flying through the queues down to a 10min wait on Sunday. I think there were at least 5 staff members in there. One taking bags, two checking restraints, one counting guests and the operator.
  13. Stuntman707

    Vampire

    Vampire is still the most popular attraction at Chessington for sure. Ideally a retrack without planning permission & refurb would be the best option if possible. No doubt Arrow made it a solid ride. The supports alone are huge! Compare that to Fury where parts of the track wobble. My latest ride on it was noticeably rough as if one set of wheels were worn down. It was jerking forwards and backwards. Even then, Chessington can’t afford to lose Vampire.
  14. RobF

    Vampire

    I'm sure if they got vekoma in and completed a full refurb including retrack the ride wouldnt need new planning permission ?
  15. Mason_Mad1

    Project Zero

    Well some people didnt know.
  16. Benin

    Hansa and Heide

    I think that area by the entrance has been closed for years, certainly since my first visit... Shame the Aztec area seems to be suffering from Merlin Mothball syndrome... Novgorod love is heavily approved, it's such a great all around experience
  17. Two fresh new parks this time, Hansa which I knew very little about and Heide, Merlins German endeavour. Travel to both is easy and both very accessible from Hamburg. I'll start with Hansa Park. Hansa Park is a delightful little park with big ambitions and a great working relationship with Gerstlauer. In it lies a euro fighter, an infinity coaster and a family coaster. All delightfully realised and with great stories. Our first ride though was a Maurer wild mouse, exactly the same as Rattlesnake. It was a little bit more heavily trimmed but looks good. Our next stop was Karnen. This thing is a beast. The only other ride that makes me this nervous is Stealth but at least that's over in two seconds. This prolongs the agony for a good two/three minutes and is an incredibly thrilling attraction. I don't want to spoiler for anyone but lets just say its one of the most thrilling first drops out there. Its outside ride section suffers a bit from being completely un-themed but the ride is thrilling enough and fast enough to overcome the lack of physical things around you. I wasn't a fan of the batching procedures though. I think taking away the choice of what row people can sit in is a bit of a waste of time. I had one ride in row three and three in row two. I wanted the back damn it. This thing is a beast though and genuinely scary. Next is the fan favourite Fluch Van Norogord. What an attraction this is. I loved the theming, the ride layout, the atmosphere and all the damn gimmicks that come from it. It's frankly hard to believe this was built in the same year as Saw and yet is 100 times better. It's not rough, it has a thrilling and engaging layout, excellent effects and a full on story. I preferred this to Karnan. The order in which was did everything else is a bit of a blur but suffice to say I think Hansa Park is a great place. It's clearly got some lofty ambitions, things like Karnan and Fluch prove they want to be big players and the amount of work going on around Karnan seems to indicate that they are investing heavily. The entrance way seemed to be having a lot of work too. Nessie Supercoaster was a fun Schwarzkopf which seems to be getting a bit of a change. It closed early to have part of its track repainted. It also seemed to speed check how fast you go through the loop too as there was a board on the control cabin indicating speeds after every cycle. So that was Hansa. Definitely get yourself there as its a park thats clearly going places. And then it was Heide. Somehow, this German Merlin park has evaded me for years even though it's thrown in an Intamin launch coaster and two B&M's. For some reason it just never got me interested, probably Europa Parks fault. Perhaps it was helped by it being my 30th birthday and so I was happy anyway but Heide was a bit of a surprise to the system. When I think of Towers, Gardaland, Thorpe, I always think corporate. Like behind the Merlin rubbish is a hand that wants to steal my money and doesn't care if I walk out the door happy or sad. Heide doesn't feel like that. And I think the big reason is that for anything built before Merlin owned the place, is absolutely gorgeous. The entrance way buildings, the care and love given to the rapids building or Grottenblitz's station, the amazing Schweizzer Bobbahn queue line and building. Theres real love and affection that has gone into the rides and so far its relatively un-ruined by Merlins talons. Ironically though, our first ride was Desert Race, a simple Rita clone dumped on some ground and themed with old jeeps, a helicopter and some sand. I really hate the trains, they are so basic Intamin with awful stickers stuck on the side proudly saying the words desert chase and some irrelevant numbers. Against all odds the ride is pretty good, far smoother then Rita and somehow, far more air time. Just a shame it looks like a dead dog and that you can't get anywhere near the ride because its all stuck behind a fence. Our next ride was Grottenblitz, a ridiculously slow mack powered coaster which was okay. We strolled past the closed Colossos which was having a bit of work but you can clearly see what needs replacing. Our aim at Heide was to do the rides in order of terrible to good, hence why we started with Desert Race. The next ride on the cycle though was Limit, a Vekoma SLC which was about as standard as they come and nowhere near as rough as Blue Tornado at Gardaland. Things were on the up now though as we hit Bobbahn, an absolutely sublime bobsleigh rollercoaster from Mack. This thing is genius and definitly the best of the ride type. The way it just keeps going, never losing speed and being genuinely thrilling and exciting. Bravo Mack. This area is Transylvania. It's like if the Chessington version was all placed on a hill. And the next ride was Flug Der Damonen. I'd heard quite a lot of negative things about Heides wing-rider over the years but in the last two months or so, that opinion seems to be slowly changing. Not as industrial as Raptor and not as destructive as the Swarm, this six rowed ring rider uses the remains of the old log flume for its queue line and is better for it. It creates a great opening atmosphere and gets you lower towards the bottom of the ride. One thing to notice about Flug is it heavily uses the natural terrain to build up the ride and I really liked it for that. The station is similar to Raptor in that you are batched to one side and there are little bag holders at each row for your belongings. Why oh why Thorpe didn't do this too, I never know as The Swarm is such a headache for getting on compared to its European brothers. Everything about Flug is more immediate and aggressive then the other European wing riders. It's 'Thorpe Park' inversion is fantastic and seems to create a far more swooping effect then Swarm. The air time hill is god tier. I loved it. You then fly into an immelmann turn which dives you further down into the pit before inlining over the area. The ride quickly adjusts itself to fly over the Transylvanian buildings to the left and swoops into a 'demon' knot, the first of its kind on a wing rider. The final turn is so much more impactful and immediate then the slow inline twist and feels like far more of a fitting ending. Simply put, this is easily one of the best rides in the park. Unlike Swarm and Raptor, this never feels like its lumbering or slowing down; I think having only six rows really helps Flug keep up the momentum. I liked how the ride feels like two halves and gets better and better throughout. It was just a winner for me. With that B&M goodness behind us it was time to visit an old friend, yes thats right, Big Limit and the old Corkscrew trains from Alton Towers. They still suck and this ride needs some new Vekoma restraints please. The final major ride is Krake, the worlds first mini B&M dive machine. Unlike Baron and Oblivion: The Black Hole which feel relatively long, Krake is way too short. There's just not enough ride to justify a 30/40/60 minute queue. It's a great ride but don't get me wrong but there just isn't enough substance. It's theming also needs a repaint desperately, the octopus mouth is now just white and nowhere near the pink it used to be. And so thats Heide. Please visit and give Merlin all your money so that they can rebuild in two areas where they've clearly shut for budgetary reasons, one the Aztec area which had two spaces completely vacant and two where the rides were SBNO. The other closed off area is right at the entrance and looks really bad. Like, really bad. Thanks for reading, Mark9 signing out.
  18. Benin

    Vampire

    Get Vekoma in again and do a complete refurb, new track, new lift hills (tyre driven ftw) and above all, get those bloody fab SFC trains on there... Though they'd need a new blocking system, I doubt tyre lifts would cope with a lot of stop/starting (if they can even do it of course)...
  19. HermanTheGerman

    Vampire

    So long as they maintain it properly, there’s no reason to think any accident will take place... Ride safety standards are very high in the U.K. They’d be very silly to remove The Vampire in the near future. It’s the park’s most popular and renowned attraction, I struggle to think of any other park that is as reliant on one major attraction as Chessington is on the Vampire. There have probably been talks of rethemeing it no doubt, but an actual removal is hard to fathom. Least not because it’s location would be totally useless if they did remove it... given they’re not allowed to use it for another major attraction.... Unless something dramatic changes, the first roller coaster to be removed from Chessington will be Dragon’s Fury. Followed by Rattlesnake. Not in the immediate future, but those rides were not built to last in the same way Vampire was, nor to cope with the pressure they’re under crowd wise. The benefit with Vampire is that the Arrow structure is super sturdy, hence it’s far less susceptible to cracks in the way Fury is for example. It was certainly built to last, and the Vekoma modification ought only to have improved that. Relatively minor work like lift hill replacements might have to be done, as the clanky chain system is outdated (especially for durability on 3 train operation), but other than that the ride should last.
  20. Stuntman707

    Project Zero

    It’s not great that social media started posting about it if it’s got nothing to do with them. Also it’s kind of embarrassing for them that it’s actually better than anything they’ve managed to do officially. Even as far as planting references to it around the park since 2016.
  21. Matt Creek

    Vampire

    I expect they will keep Vampire going for as long as possible, due to what many have said above. Were Vampire to ever be removed, unfortunately they would not be replace it with anything on the same scale, due to strict planning laws. It literally doesn’t help that the park is literally encompassed with green belt, which makes building anything on a noticeable scale extremely difficult. Thry even had to dig down for Zufari because NIMBYs complained of the giraffes being too tall. As lost as Vampire is structurally Sound, I cant see it going anywhere. Ideally a refurbishment is what it’ll get (whilst staying to it’s golden roots). Another updated set of trains would be nice. I wonder if the Sansei Vekoma purchase makes a new generation Swinging coaster possible?
  22. Mark9

    Vampire

    Vampire is in a unique position where it's still the most popular ride at the park and hasn't been overtaken by any new rollercoasters. I think it will outlive the other four suspended rides that still exist. All Vampire really needs is a refurbishment as it looks terrible.
  23. Last week
  24. ProudToServe

    Park Operations

    My original post listed many factors or what could cause the slow turn arounds with bags just being one of them Wasnt saying it was just bags. But guests crossing to shove bags in a shelf while others mess around finding theirs add's a few mins
  25. ProudToServe

    Project Zero

    Right.... First of all the site has no referencing to being "thorpe park owned" at all. People only assuming this, because Thorpe Park social media channels started dropping hints in posts and tweets including 0? etc. Yet they now say it's a scam and not them. Make your minds up thorpe. Jump on the band wagon, then jump off. Whats a scam? Currently it's not asked for any money or claimed to be thorpe park. Just linked two mazes from thorpe, which if you read posts here, link back to the company who own the site having worked on. Project Zer0 isnt "fake". Maybe is just has nothing to do with Thorpe Park? But hey, the only ones to blame for making people think it might be, is Thorpe Park their selfs.
  26. ChessingtonSam

    Project Zero

    FAKE you say?
  27. EpicSmatty

    Alton Towers Quick Questions

    Taking the train is a fairly doable option (having done it myself). Take an early morning train from London Euston to Stoke-on-Trent, then catch the shuttle bus from there to Alton Towers. Do the reverse on the way back, I recommend booking a few weeks in advance as the train tickets are significantly cheaper, also travel on a weekend as weekday morning trains are very expensive. When I did it I was staying for a few days but I can't see why it couldn't be done for just a day (except being a bit tiring!) Hope this helps.
  28. ChessingtonSam

    Alton Towers Quick Questions

    Could anybody think of a way me and my friend(s), all 15, could easily get to Alton Towers without being driven? There's a variety of reasons why not, but the general gist is my dad doesn't want to drive 6-12 hours in one day depending on if my family stay up there with us (which causes other problems) and the hotel costs too much with an extra one or two people.
  29. ChessingtonSam

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    Having been at Alton two weeks ago, I'm kind of starting to see your point @BaronC. Not from the kid's point of view, as they don't really know what it's about, but from the parent's point of view. Quite a few times I saw kids asking to go on Wicker Man, and their parents have taken one look at the statue itself, and said no, to the kid's confusion. Even my dad, who still let my sister on the ride, intentionally gave her the wrong definition for words like ritual when the technical difficulty announcement played. She didn't get any of the theme at all, being 9. Got to admit, I'm not the biggest fan of some of it myself. Only because I'm worried I'll look like a bit of a weirdo with ram skull related stuff all over my room
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