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  2. Alton Towers General Discussion

    I really need to explore these forums more!
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  4. Alton Towers General Discussion

    Already posted! Check out the other vids on there though too.
  5. Alton Towers General Discussion

    Defunctland posted this very informative video about Black Hole if anyone is intrested. Also gives a brief history about AT too.
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    This is making me lol.
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  8. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    My my my, you guys, you made me swim back with your comments! Okay. So. Things to consider, some has been touched upon. New director of Thorpe in the last year or two, so that brings a new opinion, view and strategy of the direction they want the park to go into. Comparing this to DBGT is a bit stupid to be frank. Okay it’s opening year wasn’t great, and then, the creative team seemed to change slightly (I'm not speaking any names in my posts) and suddenly the experience was significantly improved. It’s the same team behind this, and to be honest from a theming and concept side, following on from DBGTROTD and Living Nightmare I think this could be a pretty well thought out and produced project, despite the IP/horror/height restriction change. Someone touched upon Old Town kids rides and Slammer. Firstly, the Old Town rides were in Weymouth Sealife. Why put them into storage if they can be put into an area. Without them that corner of Thorpe would be Rocky on its own. And Slammer, well it’s still standing. It might not be set to run again, but we don’t know what’s happening there; let’s be honest. Someone touched on budgets. Yep. Bang on. Merlin’s had a tough year in the UK and yes, as many know anyway, LEGOLAND parks and midways are where the money is. Hence why they’ve not bought or opened any theme parks without a brand. Even the rumours of SeaWorld/Busch have an element of brand identity within their sale. The company has spent a lot of time growing Heide Park and Gardaland to push them in their local rankings; and has invested as needed into the UK parks as they’ve gone along (Thirteen, Smiler, Wicker Man, Swarm, DBGT...) unfortunately there’s gonna be a cross of budgets. Thorpe is doing satisfactory for the company so much like CWOA and LEGOLAND the money is invested at present at Towers to try and regain footfall. And finally, bearing in mind people know full well where I stand on TWD (even the mazes) TWD did unfortunately do amazingly well last Fright Nights. And whilst people look at this year as ‘X Retheme’ to the general public it’s the year of TWDTR, SAW: Alive, Late Nights etc. It may be a small investment but my god, they’ve been clever. To a paying customer there is basically the Fright Nights appeal (to a degree) for most of the year with the 10pm closes and scare mazes. I think don’t knock it until you try it. And even then just be patient. There’s a lot more behind the scenes than ANYBODY could truly understand I’m sure that swings these decisions; and have trust in each individual that they want the best for the park the same we do. And for the love of god just try and be polite. Positive criticisms and all that; as these teams work damn behind the scenes I bet to bring things like this to reality; it’s not REALLY fair for people to rip it to shreds before they’ve even physically seen the entrance, let alone ridden it. Flipper, out. PS Flying Fish is a family ride. Could suit a non-rider parent, a disabled adult, a young child. You can’t tarnish it as a ‘baby ride’ when actually it can cater to many more than you may initially think.
  9. Great Ride Documentaries

    Great video on the legacy of Arrow and how they pretty much revolutionised the theme park industry.
  10. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    Observing all the moaners in this thread like
  11. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    Investment as you mention like that was never sustainable long term, it was obviously great but I think everyone knew they wouldn’t keep that up long term. As for tidying up the park, new investments will come from a totally different pot, on twitter there’s some pictures from monks walk suggesting has Rush been repainted - so fingers crossed we will see more
  12. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    You also have to think those high investment periods were A) when the park was in rapid growth in attendance which has reached its new peak. The attractions were needed to give the park a name and grow admissions. B ) pre merlin, pre before everything must be a worlds first or gimmick to get off the table. C ) the uk part of the group has had a rough couple of years so dividends and investment slow. D the group focus on opening and purchasing new parks rather than look after what they have with quick bucks investment because the market research may have suggested a walking dead ride for 1m vs a woodie for 15m would have the bigger affect on return on investment and attendance. ultimately were left with brewers that can brew a beer in control!
  13. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    What an absolute joke Thorpe Park have become. One bad decision after another with their new investments. The place is a total dump and this new run down addition just tops it off. The amount of money they waste on rubbish temporary attractions like this could have been used to tidy up the decaying park. Thinking back through the years when there was Colossus > Nemesis Inferno > Samurai > Slammer and Rush > Stealth > Saw. They were really heading somewhere and now look. I blame too many young inexperienced managers. Pathetic Thorpe Park !
  14. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    Another Magic Making visit to the local Junk Yard for 'Theming' then... that's if there's anything left, it's all on park already.
  15. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    It takes some effort to make storm surge look good but this has done it with flying colours. At no other point in thorpes lifetime has the park looked completely directionless.
  16. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    I do want Thorpe to pull this off, have extensive theming and a thrilling experience on and off the ride. No doubt this whole walking dead season will put off families with younger kids so if the new ride is a flop then I think it will really hurt Thorpe. But I want them to prove they can do something as well themed as Living Nightmare on a bigger scale. X may finally have a proper theme for once and I'm curious more than anything to try the ride with the brake runs. They are really going to have to do something special for Fright Nights though. 2 mazes (Big Top & Platform 15) isn't going to be enough.
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    Flying Fish is a kiddie coaster rather than a "for all the family" coaster. But regardless of who the park is targeting, X just isn't a thrill coaster. It's a family coaster and marketing it as anything more will only lead to disappointment from thrill seekers expecting a thrill ride, and families who cannot ride a coaster designed for them in mind. It's madness really considering the trains were redesigned just a few years ago to make the ride accessible to a wider range of people. If Thorpe are aiming to be the "thrill park" then why did they install Angry Birds Land, I'm a Celebrity, the tacky flats near Loggers etc... They literally have no sense of long-term investments and seem to decide everything on a whim whilst completely neglecting customer experience. In addition, thrilling does not mean that everything has to be a dark, drab grey theme. There are plenty of thrill rides with much nicer and more creative themes than just giving everything the same old boring "scariest ride ever" tosh. Thorpe is such a depressing place these days with Saw, Derren Brown, Swarm and now this all with horror themes. They market themselves as "the island like no other" but it looks like a derelict wasteland. 100% agree. There are so many better things Thorpe could invest in which would benefit the park in the long run, and would have been far more beneficial than throwing money at flash-in-the-pan stuff like this.
  18. Rant

    Can I illustrate a rant in one picture? Because this sums up my life with a few people at the mo and it just baffles me how people can think this is fair...
  19. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    Your not wrong there. My family don't like X at all, infact, they refuse to go on it. I believe, if the promising marketing images are close to the standard we are getting we're in for a treat. Wicker man is going to have some of the best themeing in the UK, so I hope, with the Walking Dead, this will have some brilliant themeing. Don't Judge it until you've experienced it.
  20. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    Personally, I’m actually quite exited for this because I was quite bored of X recently. My last few rides were pretty dull and it felt like it needed much more to enhance the experience (I know I used to say force>theming but over the years that has become more balanced). I highly understand why people aren’t a fan of this and I do see the huge flaws in their decision. But like many others here, I’m in their target audience and I judge a park from my point of view based on how much I enjoy it, not how other people will enjoy it.
  21. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    I have to say that I do think X really was the glue that gave something for the family/younger teenagers to do- so its loss will overall in the long-term hurt the park. I think as a thrill ride X will seriously disappoint, the ride is a small Vekoma family coaster with a fairly tame layout due its constant break runs.. X as a family attraction honestly I think was the best years of its life as it actually had some fun in it.. Okay it wasn't amazing but it filled a huge hole in the lineup and it seemed popular with the public. If they wanted to appeal to the thrill market they could of least maybe installed a new flat where Slammer was? Or maybe give Colossus some new trains? Something that won't be 100% irrelevant in 5 years would of been nice.. When Angry Birds is the best investment to happen in your park in the past 5 years you know you have fu**** things up..
  22. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    Is the walking dead even that popular anymore? I hope they've installed some kind of tunnel on the stop sections at least, or else I can't imagine how making them scary will work if they're all still out in the open
  23. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    It's a clear indication that the park either have no direction at all or they intend to turn the park into a park full of horror and disaster. The year of the walking dead is hardly a sustainable business model for the park. I'm assuming that's come about by the new director who came from the midway attractions. I don't see it being successful as the IP must have cost a lot and I imagine it will have almost no impact on attendance seeing as the last 2 years has focused on horror and if they didn't visit previously I doubt they will visit now. I might be wrong but I suspect the pulling power of the walking dead isn't too strong anymore. The parks direction is concerning to say the least. Teenagers have no money, family's have no reason to attend. They are spending money on incredibly short term investments. They could easily boost visitor numbers by offering a more upbeat thrill ride aimed at the older families that isn't horror related. Everyone likes something thrilling and entertaining, not everyone likes horror.
  24. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    From the art this may have new trains, the style looks similar to thirteen from the artwork. As this is enclosed and the work has all taken place behind closed doors we cannot tell the extent of works that have taken place. A brake section could have been replaced with trick track ect or even retracking ect. the one thing I'm sure of its the only decent reide that thorpe had for younger guests. It will cause a number of complaints from people who have taken younger children on before. Its a complete u turn in the direction of Thorpe, wanting to accomodate family's and slap dash embarrassing investments.
  25. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    If you are confusion, I’m disappointment. Every investment opposes the last one - there’s no direction, no purpose and no hope for Thorpe’s future under Merlin.
  26. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    Who else is looking forward to "The Walking Dead : The Ride: Rise of the Walkers" for the 2019 season? Also wasn't DBGT, advertised as being the center of the island as well...
  27. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    The press event for the ride will be on the evening of Thursday 29th March, so presumably the ride will be opening on Friday 30th in time for the Easter holidays. I have mixed feelings about this ride. I am intrigued to see what the ride is going to be like and whether it will be good or not. I do hope that it is actually scary. I don't mind The Walking Dead theme but I hope that this wasn't a last minute, rushed project like Sanctum clearly was. I also think it was a bad decision to remove X. It was the perfect ride for the younger thrill-seekers who don't want to go on the kid rides, but aren't tall enough to go on the major thrill rides. There isn't much for them to do anymore...
  28. The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    If the same height restriction as previous was used for this retheme, along with no minimum age restriction, I would've actually given this a chance to deliver and see what it's like despite being against the whole TWD theme in general. But it's because the park are intentionally going to make this out as their next big thrill machine I have a problem, as this is once again going to lead to false expectations and promises with guests. People naturally are going to think this will be an amazing ride with the OMG ANOTHER WORLD FIRST nonsense when in truth, the coaster just isn't great for the market Thorpe are trying to go for here. Therefore, a fair few people who do ride it are likely going to be disappointed as a result and you end up questioning whether this retheme was worth doing in the first place other than for IP bragging rights. X as far as I could see worked very well with it's target audience, this change I simply cannot see happening. You know something is clearly very wrong here when for example a coaster like Helix with 2 launches, seven inversions, massive airtime and near-60mph speeds has a lower height restriction than this. Increasing a ride's height restriction based purely and only on it's theme is sheer stupidity in my view. This is an enormous two fingers up to anyone in the 1m - 1.4m height category.
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