Iron Irishman

Ironic, Two real engines mounted on a fake wing. And yet it looked so real. And the copter''s still a registered flyer? Won't that mean it can't look bashed up or damaged from crash landing? But then again, copters don't always blow up after crash landing.

What needs to be done is for someone to get a crystal clear snapshot of the helicopter inside the helix. Meanwhile I watched the new Swarm video and I must say, THIS IS GONNA BE INTENSE

I am hoping I won't be too tall. The ride looks amazing, and I want on it so badly.

It gets worse. I don't know me own height. I'm horrible at metres.

Guys, there is something that actually concerns me. That particular concern being the height limit. For one thing, I am quite a tall lad, and if Saw didn't take my head, I'm afraid the Swarm will. What with the wing, the fire engine and the ruined church tower, and how close the train comes to hitting it. I'm afraid someone like meself could get their head taken off. What do you think?

Ok Sid, I understand where you're coming from, and for Saw, that's the POV of the movie viewers. I'm on about the POV of the victims. There isn't a varying endgame however (despite the first, fourth and fifth films) and you're right about that. But when YOU'RE the guy stuck in a trap with no knowledge of how you got here or what's going to happen, that brings in the surprise and scare factor. But for the Swarm, you just had me beat. I indeed failed to acknowledge the public. They would literally be begging for news surrounding this strange invasion. Just look at us, we're begging for it to open. And yeah, I am quite the literal person sadly. I never see rides from an imaginative point of view, yet I still enjoy them.

What I mean is you couldn't possibly feel two kinds of wind from two different sources. The speed going into the helix clashing with the wind from the rotors will merge into one, making no difference as to what wind you feel and from where it comes from. But certainly Thorpe could have it slowly spinning..........it would give off the effect the disaster happened recently. All that must be done is to install a motor inside the chopper cabin.

Hopefully, the water effects may make an appearance, but the wind................yeah, the wind from the rotors and speed in the helix may clash, presenting no change in effect. But the water effect is a healthy idea

Unless there was helix in Nemesis Inferno, I never imagined wind in the middle of one, but water effects are a could-be. The chopper's rotors could spin, kicking up water to soak the riders. Unless the wind already present in the helix will clash with the rotor wind, it's a healthy idea.

Everyone? Not when you're the poor chap stuck in a trap. It's only after Billy appears on screen that you know what's gonna happen. Coming back to the Swarm, yeah, the government wouldn't say much, but during the ride I meant. Fire effects from the plane engines, wind effects from the helicopter rotors kicking up water in the helix? Surely you didn't miss the outlined possible ride events in my comment.

There's a difference between Saw and The Swarm. In the world of Saw, you wake up in a near death situation crapping your pants not knowing what's supposed to happen. But in the Swarm, you don't expect much surprises, unless the plane's exposed engines generate fire effects, and the helicopter comes with a wind effect that makes it look like the rotors are spinning, thereby kicking up water and soaking riders in the helix. Anything else would be a bonus, namely the overturned truck themed retail stalls containing spark effects. Anything Thorpe hasn't mentioned about the Swarm's scenery could be a surprise, and that particular element might just make an appearance.

YES! Finally, the coaster is in action! The end is practically breathing down our necks now.

Well, at least now we know the chopper's in place. Hopefully there isn't much left now before testing. As for the seats, damn they look cosy! Can't wait to try them out.

Oh sorry. I was thinking of RCT3's version of the Wingrider. What's it called again?

OMG I just realized, we'd be passing under the plane wing facing backwards! We won't see it coming! That is soooo freaky!

You can say that again! Just like with Saw, the plot is finally starting to unravel! Only this time, THORPE MEAN BUSINESS

Oh quit whining, there's not gonna be a roof! The church is a ruin! The roofs of churches almost always get blown off in an explosion. Just look at World War II!Coming back to the trains...OH-MY-HOLY-GOD...*hallelujah plays in the background as I stare and drool at the picture in awe*THIS LOOKS SO FREAKING AWESOME! AND LEDS TOO! THORPE YOU HAVE PULLED OFF A FREAKING BEAST OF A COASTER! THIS IS GONNA BE TOO INTENSE TO CALL IT CRAP!

Are u joking? Seriously? I think that advert is as crap as Storm Surge, lazily picked up and thrown into the spotlight!

Oh, that is certain. But this isn't Saw. This is using my imagination around the Swarm and it is healthier than a Kelloggs snack bar!

Military guys mutated by the Swarm...........hmm, the inclusion of a nuke or some form of nucleation hosts an opening to soldiers mutated by the radioactivity. Hopefully Thorpe can pull something out of the hat..............althoug myself I'm not so keen on actors. Thank God I never saw Fright Nights. As for a scare zone, TP could cordon around only the accessible areas with scenery with police barriers, police tape and scaffolding bearing signs saying "Warning. Mass radioactivity in this area. Do not enter". Then they could cordon off the easy ways out, and leave the guests with only one way out; the long, hard way. For the finale, I imagine the guests entering a metal military structure containing a heavily nucleated piece of debris recovered from the village area. Then as the soldiers are about to say how the object relates to the Swarm, the lights go out, and smoke machines then pump green coloured smoke into the structure. During this process, the soldiers are being mutated by the intense radioactivity breaking through their bio suits. They are seen in brief, sharp flashes of light, before everything comes to a complete silence. The structure's emergency lighting (coloured red to add to the suspense and impending terror) turns on to reveal only the guests, and the radioactive debris. The soldiers are nowhere to be seen. Then you hear the roar of the Swarm passing over the structure and after it leaves, the fully mutated soldiers jump out at the guests, awoken by the beast, and with an instinct to kill. They chase the guests out of the scare zone back into the village centre. It's an idea, but it is a healthy one.

I agree with JackR. The public (us) learned of this disaster in a town next to Thorpe Park. We go there to find the town nearly obliterated (the grim and dangerous atmosphere highlighted by the presence of rain eg: something seriously bad has happened here), except for a gigantic track formed from the steel of a crashed plane, and other steel/iron deposits welded together by a nuclear explosion of some kind. Rumours indicate a mysterious creature has taken up residence in the ruins of a church, the source of the track, which it is using to gather the deposits of nuclear energy it dispersed to obliterate the town. Our job? Go inside the church, and find out what kind of alien has turned the ruin and track into it's hive.There's no doubt the atmosphere of the ruined town and the sense of horror at the earlier events will echo and reverberate around the ride and the surrounding area. It will no doubt rake in most of the park, all at the same time conjuring up millions in profit for the park. Thorpe are truly onto a winner. The plan? Start from scratch. Saw was obviously one of the park's more than truthful failures. The ride's good, but the PR and advertising stressed it as "the be-all end-all" of Thorpe's coasters. So Mike Vallis perhaps thought "lets do LC12 the old fashioned way: original with a personal touch of epic Thorpeyness". So yeah, let Swarm come fast, hard and awesome.

I would say the majority of the theming is done, but the queueline, fencing, paths and the themed retail outlets are a certainty. Sound systems and the like are obviously the department for an electrician. Anyway, The Swarm has now reached the halfway mark. Now the time has come to see the end to a long and exciting wait for TP's newest (and dare I say it, the BEST) coaster to start its journey alongside the park's arsenal of coasters.

That or they're absolutely finished. Anything on the list that's not been covered yet?

Oh, we can be sure of that. They couldn't waste anymore time getting things ready by January. So yeah, we should be seeing trains at the start of the New Year