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Given how apparently hit and miss experiences on Smiler can be (though always miss for me), backwards rows would be murderous. At least with Swarm, the ride is smooth, meaning facing backwards doesn't cause any major issues, even if it makes some feel queasy.

This year's Scarefest line up isn't enticing me a lot. -The Sanctuary: brilliant maze, yes, and I love it. Glad it's returning. -Zombies: Fun scare zone path, but nothing particularly exciting. -TotT: Yawn. Left me unimpressed when I did it a couple of years ago; really needs a revamp in my eyes. And I don't think the whole 'It's their flagship attraction, it has to be kept' rubbish should be a reason. -Scary Tales: Yay, another scare zone. And what's more, the story sounds like it would have suited a maze environment better, Will keep my mind open about it, but it just doesn't entice me..

Don't know whether I'm disappointed Jason didn't attempt to role play me or relieved. Now to go to the cover of darkness...

I have a heart; hope wifey had a nice birthday. ##unvote ##vote Jason

I haven't read any of the Gone series, so dunno how good or bad that'd be, but by the sounds of it, the roaming characters being created are all original and specifically designed for Thorpe.

Taken from ScareTOUR's Facebook: Excited I am. Sounds absolutely incredible. They're truly pulling out all the stops here, and the park-wide theme sounds perfect. It's clear already that they've put tonnes of thought, effort and money into the event this year, and I'm really, really looking forward to it now. I know some may question why they're not making full use of the Lionsgate IPs, but given what we're getting, I'm not really complaining!

I do apologise Tommy. It was just a test of your town-alignment; promise! ##unvote ##vote pluk

I still don't trust you Tommy though I'm afraid. In fact, I wheeeeeeeee-lly don't trust.

I feel that Tommy is talking an awful lot and placing blame on a lot of other members. Maybe he's with the Mafia and hoping that all this talk with distract us from him... ##unvote ##vote Tommy

Unlike the cold air balloon, the idea really took off!

I'm so glad you got Alvey Tommy I'm keeping my vote though. Partially because I'm lazy and partially because why not?

##vote kinnaird

It's pretty much the same problem as the Premium MAP. You get £5 vouchers for Fastrack packages (that you can only use once). Unless other people have Premium passes or simply buy Fastrack it doesn't work out too well. Similar with the VIP Pass, which gives the passholder only unlimited Fastrack . It's not forcing people to go in the mazes alone; simply just gives them the option to use Fastrack. What you're forgetting when considering the price is that it no longer is £5 to visit with a Standard MAP. The price is now £10; £5 is simply an early bird price - a special offer if you will. So, assuming you use the car park and the Fastrack package, you get your money's worth in two visits (since each visit would cost you £15 for parking and entry and the Fastrack package is £25 - that's £55 of value already). There will definitely be people, TPM members or not, who visit at least twice, so I think the cost is justified. As I've said before, I'm unsure how many people will take them up on the offer, but it's a nice offering. Face it Alone wasn't revealed until a couple of weeks before Fright Nights started. Last year, tickets were £15 per person per maze, and you would head to the Calypso BBQ just before 10pm (park close), where the experience begins. Prices for this year haven't been announced yet, so just keep an out eye really! Looks like there's no official confirmation yet either way; could be 3pm, could be 4pm. It's almost always been 6 hours of maze time at every FN (except last season), so I'm more expecting 4pm. I guess it's a case of wait and see!

Oh why not.

Well yes, the idea I think is you get one Fastrack package. Just like the Premium MAP gives you one £5 off voucher for Fastrack at the parks. The Horror Pass isn't meant to appeal to Premium holders since they get free every anyway (just have to prebook. This is primarily sinned at Standard MAP and Thorpe Park AP holders.

Bare in mind the Fastrack package is now worth £25. So, with the free parking, you've got your value in 2 visits. Certainly more expensive than I was expecting, but I can see the reasoning behind it. Not sure how many will take them up on it though..

^Pretty sure Thorpe confirmed to someone via Twitter it's going in Asylum's spot. TPM have an article - http://thorpeparkmania.co.uk/news/01-09-2014/STUDIO-13 13th Fright Nights attraction for the 13th Fright Nights, and has the number 13 in! This is so much better than Experiment 10

Logo! Certainly is a surprise - I was expecting another IP for sure. Had I known it wasn't going to be an IP before this announcement, I'd have been disappointed. However, Thorpe have gotten this just right - it fits the overall theme well, is a different story all the other mazes and definitely has potential. I wonder how the maze will operate though. The last conga line style maze Thorpe added was Saw Alive back in 2010 - I'm almost expecting a free flow / different approach.

Not entirely sure where Fastrack users go for Colossus when RnR operates (they both might use the Fastrack queue?). But since there wasn't any RnR trials today(?), then surely Fastrack users would just use the Fastrack queue anyway?

Do you mean exit pass users? Not sure how you can tell how many rows would be used for Fastrack, and only 8 Fastrackers per train would be quite reasonable for Colossus!

I'd expect most secondary schools start this Wednesday or Thursday and colleges to start between Thursday and Monday (especially in the local area). So next week will probably still be quite busy and there'll be a fair few people trying to get in that last quick visit before going back to school.

If you look, you will find them! And they certainly range in intensity - some will appeal to a 'friendlier' market, others to hard-core fans. Due to the nature of scare attractions, only theme parks and other permanent attractions well be the only ones who really push their scare attractions. Other places will advertise more to the those who are interested in the first. As I say: look and you will find them!

I would agree with you that having to pay £50 would be excessive. However, say to get the Horror Pass bolted onto you is only £25-£30, then would you go for that? Especially since it gives you extra freedom. It seems to me that the idea is to get more people to upgrade their passes or encourage people to plan ahead further to control the number of guests on park.

No. My point is, there's more than different AB theming (which in itself hasn't even been confirmed) - there's roaming actors, different audio, different feel, etc. There's some park wide theming, and hopefully there'll be more this season.

Fair enough. I can't comment too much on BPB (not really knowing or caring that much about the place), however... Thorpe Park: 5 (five) free Fright Nights attractions, roaming actors, small shows (albeit, poorly advertised), open till 10pm and more. Cabin in the Woods has also been critically acclaimed, and I'd be surprised if Thorpe don't try to use that to their advantage. Alton Towers: 2 free Scarefest attractions, couple of Scarefest things for younger kids, open till 9pm. Oakwood: All that (which isn't exactly special or enticing) and open till 10pm. Thorpe certainly seems the best option out of all of that! Well, there's going to be a lot more than that; that's my point..