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I believe they own that stage and have done since the mid 2010s (when they purchased it for the Thorpe Sounds event... I'm getting deja vu...)

I feel this one is quite important. No one there seemed particularly interested in the DJ on the two evenings I went. They were paying for the DJ and a couple of techs by the looks of it, then there’s the stage as well. I’m not sure whether they hire the stage or own it, but it does make you wonder whether they’re getting much value out of it. I do think they need to do a better job of advertising the whole thing beforehand though, as I didn’t really get the impression that many people knew much about it. Social media posts seemed to be really last minute. I’m not complaining anyway, as I said, Saturday in particular had a lot of people staying. Launch Pad all the seating was being used and there was a really good atmosphere.

Every time the parks do a late night summer opening we have the same discussion. Just doesn't appear to be the appetite for it from the masses.

I don't think on-park announcements or advertising will work all that much. I agree that using the screens around park to make it clear what time the park closes is not a bad thing. But if people are oblivious to the closing time, think it's 6pm (say), and then rock up and find out at 2pm it's actually 9pm, I don't think that will encourage that many people to stay. I think there's two things to keep in mind with later opening hours. You need to give people a reason to stay. Fright Nights is always packed until close, because there's a reason to stay (scare stuff and night rides). Summer Lates had a DJ and maybe one night ride if you join a queue late on. For many, that's not enough to get people to stay. You have to accept that people will leave early. At similar sized parks (and bigger), people leave before park close, especially when there's late closing. Just as a recent example: I went to Dollywood last month, 10am-9.30pm opening hours. All day, Lightning Rod had 45min+ queue, except in the last hour where it dropped to 5mins. People leave early. And that's fine, so long as you're busy enough during the day and people who stay late get their money's worth. I was on park both Fridays and staying late felt worthwhile. If it translated into people spending money and giving better KPI scores it's worth it. The park just need to come up with a way of making staying later more appealing, and advertising that a bit more.

I agree. Using the bigger queue time boards and the big screen at launch pad would've been a good start. Maybe a park wide announcement or 2.

Ahhh, that all makes sense. Creature Campus could work as a scare zone if they wanted it to. Back in the day, Amity was a mix of both, and I think the location outside Stealth makes more sense for a full set based around the school than Launch Pad, which seems to be used for multiple different things. Not really Fright Nights-related, but it’s funny how Launch Pad suddenly comes alive when there are food units open. Maybe they should have stuck to the original plan and kept permanent food units around the area. I just can’t see Lucifer’s Lair also having a stage and staying show-focused. I think the danger is that there ends up being more shows than scare zones. I think the theme of lucifers lair lends itself better to being a hub of entertainment. I’d be really sad to see it go. I don’t think Purgatory Town should come back unless they move away from the conversation-based approach. Me and my group aren’t really going to interact with actors on that level. I think the actors should be providing scares and approaching us to scare us, rather than just loitering around and having a conversation with people. Alton Towers does scare zones really well with its two free walkthrough scare zones. I’m glad The Crows are coming back, but I think they really needed another one alongside it.

Bit of a curveball that's for sure. My best guess is that Creature Campus and Rebel Ball will alternate on the Launchpad stage, meaning there's always something going on. One of the downsides for Creature Campus is it was pretty much non-existent outside of the performances, so having its space doubled up for something else works. It's worth noting the description for Rebel Ball lists "fire performances" as opposed to a fire show. I'll be disappointed if Lucifer's Lair is scaled back this year. It's been the crown jewel of Fright Nights since it came about in my opinion.

New show has been announced as Rebel Ball with dance, fire, music and Dj shows. I think this is a replacement of all the shows at lucifers lair, so I assume this is going on the launchpad and lucifer is going to take a backseat. This confirms a few things and makes more things confusing What will lucifers lair be? Creature Campus was rumoured to be moving to the launch pad because of the what3words code in the teaser. Will Rebel Ball just be shows or have roaming actors too? It could be the best use of the launch pad for this event and I really hope it’s advertised well as the hub of the event

I arrived at 6 for the evening on Saturday and the number of people leaving was insane. I also believe there was nothing in park or at the entrance telling people the park was open until 9pm which I think is half the problem. Not everyone physically looks at the opening times and assume it shuts at 6. They really should add a closing time sign at the entrance or perhaps the bigger queue time boards.

Knowing this cinema and its love for Warner Bros., I suspect The Conjuring from 2013 will be the next 4D film considering it has the same BBFC rating as It and is a VERY big franchise.

Updating my 10 top as I don't currently have any more trips planned this year, new entries in bold. 1) Batman Gotham City Escape 2) Toutatis 3) Untamed 4) Kondaa 5) Shambala 6) Hyperia 7) Ride to Happiness 8) Taron 9) Balder 10) Hyper Coaster Helix and Zadra now both fall out of my top 10. Batman has always intrigued me, but I didn't expect to like it as much as I did. Every element hits no matter what seat you're in. The tophat works, the ejector airtime is insane, and it's easily my favourite stall I've done on a coaster. I never really see Hyper Coaster talked about, but it's a solid coaster. Pretty traditional hyper layout with an insane first drop and a crazy zero g roll.

Summer lates were great, really hope they build on them and we have more of them next year. I normally completely avoid Thorpe during July and August but I went last Friday and yesterday for the afternoon/evening. Last Friday seemed to be the quietist of the 4, but I think a lot of people left/were put off due to the heat. Yesterday a good amount of people stayed till the end which is good to see. I do think they could do a better job of advertising it though. I don't think theres enough (anything?) on park telling you the park is actually open until 9. I got sent a survey the other day about the event, asking about reasons for visiting, rides being open late, the food stalls, DJs and what time of year is best for rides in the dark. So it's good to see they're at least considering expanding on it.

So Purgatory Town was confirmed as returning this year tonight. On the website, there are two more attractions to be revealed: a scare zone or show, and the maze. The new zone is something of a surprise, since - up to now - there were only 4 placeholders for that slot. All of last year's zones and shows are returning, so this fifth zone is something new (or perhaps something returning). I wonder if they're thinking of doing something like Legacy, but improved having learnt lessons from the Lucifer's Lair fire shows? Edit: Actually, I lie - IT 4D hasn't been confirmed as returning. So it could just be a new film in the cinema. The teaser trailer seemed to hint at a horror film released in 2013, so there we go.

the first uploaded video is available online, I confused it with a later advert which reused some footage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_NMfRvtnZQ&lc=Ugy1MaKE1RT4R6h9-FN4AaABAg) so it's just the last four that aren't on there...

I was reading through the discussion page for Project Dylan/Saw: The Ride on the CoasterForce forums and found out that they uploaded 5 teaser videos for the ride, each on the 13th from July to November but I cannot find uploads of them anywhere, found a description on the archived project Dylan website for one of them but idk if there's descriptions of the rest. (edit: forgot to mention but the youtube uploads are still mostly archived, there's just no pictures or video available) does anyone here remember watching these and maybe somehow have copies of them?

It will be quite a weird area with no stage or shows, unless there’s more theming

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Lucifer's Lair returning. Interestingly no mention of a new location, but also no mention of any specific shows.

Looks like it could be The Crows going there:

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Its certainly a lot shorter than the Saw Alive path. I guess it worked okay with Death Doors as you'd spend time knocking on doors and hanging around rather than walking straight through. I always liked the Blair Witch location as a scare zone, but that obviously isn't viable anymore with Hyperia. Couldn't they make something work starting to the left of Trailers and exiting by the Rumba Rapids smoking area though?

There is still multiple places to host a scare zone including outside rumba rapids. I do miss the swarm invasion style of zones too.

I was never a big fan of that location being used as a scare zone, especially in Thorpe's format of a one-way outdoor walkthrough. It's quite small and doesn't have the same impact. Equally, I always had concerns about Death's Doors and how it would handle crowds, but it coped. So what do I know. In saying that, I would prefer to see Thorpe try another scare zone which isn't just a one-way route, but we'll see.