Yeah I know exactly what you mean innit! I have given up trying to follow the Saw stuff since yesterday :)Bear in Mind that Flamingoland have added rides year on year for the last 7 years - 4 coasters in 5 years speaks for its self.If it turns out to be another GeForce I will put my Flamingoland Season Pass in that new Thorpe Bin! The Park seem to have done their homework on this one, and were in Indiana in the summer to check out Steel Hawg, so yeah I am confident that I will be able to keep my pass :)As far as reliability of S&S rides, I think that the general reliability of Thorpe has been the worst of any Park I have visited, except for Walibi Belgium which comes a close second. Thorpes reliability this season has improved massively, although they still have some way to go. S&S reliability seems not to have been an issue outside of Thorpe - Liseberg's 'Rush' never seems to fail and I have heard little downtime on Fly Swat since it's teething troubles were ironed out - bear in mind that it was the prototype.There is yet another ride to be announced for the Park, they weren't going to release the El Loco information until the end of the season, but felt that they might as well as Saw was named surprisingly early. However, as you say, no matter whether it is a World Record coaster, if it ain't at Thorpe, who cares. Flamingoland are also increasing their advertising next year as they believe they now have sufficient capacity to increase their attendance.