Project LC

Now horrible histories would be perfect. I'm not sure how you could get it working as a ride which you would want to do over and over but it would be one great ride the first time round.

I will be amazed if they fit an sfx coaster in that building. The building just doesn't work with it at all. If it turns out to be an SFX coaster then I don't have much hope on it being very good.

Paramount park has an incredible amount of investment going into it. It was stated somewhere that medium term investment year would be around £30million. Its location is far better, it will be home to some very large IP's and will attract people from all over Europe, which means its competing with Disney. Regardless of if it is better than Disney and Europa or not it will have to be of similar standard. No one invests billions in something they don't think will succeed. Varney may have said that the PP people have little experience but I think he has forgotten the amount they are investing. If things start to go wrong then PP will just head hunt for someone who does have experience. The project is already at a stage where its about to apply for planning permission.

I would like it not to be an IP. At this current moment in time the buildings are too generic to really tell what the the theme/IP could be. I can see Jack the ripper being a good theme that would attract guests but is that really the market they are after and is it not a bit to obvious.

Would it not make more sense if WC stood for 2 words rather than 1. Something tells me Whitechapel isnt the IP they have gone for. The last series only got 4 million viewers, not exactly the people puller they want.

Locals moan about traffic, legoland offers a solution so a new group moans. They tried changing the traffic light priority so it favoured the park which improved traffic flow but it meant the locals journey was slightly longer. So of course they all moaned about that. ThEy could offer to build a new road but I'm sure the same thing will occur of "you have ruined the country side". The locals have a right to complain by all means but they need to remember the jobs it offers and the money it brings in.

Maybe have it so it only texts you the coasters queue times.

Would be better off buying new lap bar trains. That way it would become rideable. A repaint while they are at it as well. Oh and an update to the themeing.

Its better than that, for reasons only known to them they concluded that the busiest weekend they have had so far wouldn't be that bad so they opened on one train.

£30 million orginal creative idea that is a major risk or £30 million dark ride with an IP which will much more likely get a return. I think that thorpe will struggle to convince the market that a dark ride is just as good if not better than a coaster. The swarm may have failed for many reasons but I am quite sure the current market that goes to thorpe would prefer a hyper coaster than a dark ride. I'm sure that opinion would change for many afterwards but they need to be able to convince people to go.

I never claimed it was their fault. I just don't think they should be able to come along and make people who have waited extra for the front wait longer. Especially on 1 train operation. They had the back row cut off so they can go there, rather than stop people going on the front.

It was nemesis and air and I also saw them do it on oblivion. Staff were instructing all fastrack to use the exits. They are simply an annoyance to other guests.

Yeah, it's just what was going on with oblivion that I found confusing. They had enough people to fill all the shuttles but they kept sending 2 of the 4 empty.

I don't care what anyone pays, VIP should not be able to turn up at the exit and take the front row. There were a few at Alton today and not only did the queue hate them the staff seem to strongly dislike the procedure.

Odd operations today. Oblivion was only using the front of the station and had alternate cars going round empty. The smiler only has 3 trains at the moment as 2 are still in strip down. Apart from that everything was on low capacity with the exception of Rita. Not really complaining as more wasn't need as everything was walk on.

There is an area beneath the structure that is something like 3m deep. However this space is for maintenance purposes only. So I would imagine that it will also be the electronic centre. Got to house the lsm systems somewhere.

Swarm suffers from it being in part of the park far away from everything else. As a result people go there in the morning and simply dont return as they expect it to be a 45+minute queue. In reality by that time on a weekend the 2nd train has been added and the actual queue time is walk on. what should then happen is the advertised queue time should be dropped to 10 minutes but that suddenly means everyone comes over and its no longer 10 minutes. As a result from 2pm onwards the swarm island is often empty. Stealth fluctuates a lot, often having a high queues before lunch as its near all of the food places. it sometimes (really depends on the rest of the day) has a peak around 3:30 to 5:00 ish as people do it as their last ride before leaving. After 5pm the whole park is dead and most things have short queues.

That is possibly the most illogical statement I've ever read. How can you possibly get more rides done by turning up later.

There is excess demand for them as there is a waiting list. So a load of people willing to pay £500 and people honestly believe that merlin are not just going to creep up the numbers of them. They slowly made all the other passes worse while slowly upping the price, same will happen with VIP.

This is the best dark ride... ... In the world!

Coasters are easy to retheme on the fly, a dark ride is not quite the same. The theme will be pretty much set as its based on a story. It wont be easy to change that unlike the swarm or The Smiler. As a result they can make the marketing far more precise and accurate and generally put across a much better marketing campaign. Then again it is merlin so you never know...

Well tragic is certainly one word for that monstrosity. The same tacky queue as the dodgems, horrific wooden fence and a plastic sign stuck on it. Do Thorpe understand that a themed experience should be from the start of the queue not the ride. I will admit that my view is rather extremely negative on it but look at it. That is going to be sitting opposite the new dark ride for crying out loud. At least they have done the inside.

It does look like a blury image of a dalek eye stalk. I get the impression of science fiction however if it's DW or not it's impossible to tell. The text is too vague to get any clues from. Que a season of teasers.

Teasers are up. Dalek eye stalk anyone?

Sort of got a bit carried away...