Sorry, I missed that post. Mumbo Jumbo, Flamingo Lands' S&S El Loco will indeed have holding breaks, which is why Thorpe are stressing the Worlds steepest 'freefall' drop, and Flamingo Land are pushing the worlds steepest drop - it's your call what the difference is. The main thing is that there will be two World First Coasters opening in the UK in 2009, which can't be bad.Mumbo Jumbos' first train was shown off at the recent EAS convention.More news from Flamingo Land: The 2009 Annual pass is being sold on line at £40 for the first 1,000 customers (saving 55%)http://www.flamingoland.co.uk/I appreciate that few people from here are likely to want an annual pass, but never the less, it shows a change in strategy from the park, who rarely have special offers