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^ I agree on some levels, but I'd rather the park evolved and developed with new attractions than have them squeezed in between the old rides!

I think Vengeance itself isn't owned by Thorpe, but I'm not sure! I have heard of the ride you're talking about that! I just can't think of the name :/

I think some people think it's "cool" to bash everything Merlin do. I'm sure lots of us would do the same if we were in charge of the company, I know I would. Why make risky investments when you could build an attraction that's easy to market and will bring people in?

^ Just accidentally deleted my post... Awkward :L Thanks though haha, maybe when I go again I'll consider it! Repost because my laptop is awful... Here's me being photobombed in Barcelona this month by my friend Leah! And here's us before our horrific Face it Alone experience earlier this week!

^ Saw isn't advertised as a dark ride though, it just has a drop with some static blades! Plus I wouldn't say the Saw brands allows much creativity considering how dull and gory the franchise is! As much as I hate Doctor Who, if it did happen to end up in Thorpe, it would allow so much more creativity in terms of imagery that people could relate to and get excited over. And that leads me back to my first point, which was if Thorpe Park's new ride carried an IP, it might be expensive and take such a huge portion of the budget that money on the actual ride technology would be more limited than it's already (rumoured) small budget. Dark rides generally cost more than coasters when done right. I know rides like Thor's Hammer are great, immersive and cheap (for a dark ride), but I just can't see vast amounts of the public engaging with it. So even though I hate that Merlin use IPs (tacky IPs) a little much, I can see where they're coming from.

But rides like Saw and The Smiler aren't about escapism, and they've gone down pretty damn well. I get you're point, but Nemesis Sub Terra is the only proper "dark ride" we've seen from Merlin recently, so we don't know what they'll do yet considering we have no rides of the sort to compare it to. So saying that they can't do escapism, while true, doesn't cover their dark ride efforts since we haven't seen one from them except N:ST. Actually, N:ST is really fun, creative and is actually fairly immersive. Sub Terra doesn't have an IP attached to it, only an in-house "brand".

^ Not sure why I put a third, it cost a lot more than that haha, 260 US dollars if I remember. I never said this ride needed an IP, that wasn't a point I was making in any way. I just assumed it would have an IP given all the rumours that are flying about. However if this ride does have an IP, my point definitely still stands.

Now you've made that statement I really hope this ride is an exact clone of It's a Small World.

I just thought, if this is costing a third of what Ratatouille cost at DLP, this might not be as spectacular as I'd hoped. The one at DLP has a great ride system but is mostly just huge screens as theming, plus they didn't have to pay for an IP. So if this new ride at Thorpe Park has an IP, surely they'd have to pay for that, which would take a chunk out of an already small(ish) budget for a dark ride?

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^ I saw that on snapchat last night! It's safe to say I laughed so hard just a little pee came out!

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Fixed that one for you

I'm thinking the Hunger Games IP is likely here... Quick pre-show, and then a fight to the death for a priority pass. On-ride photos will also be available however not very popular.

^ Maintenance is expensive though, even for large companies! I know the place has faults (like every theme park), but it isn't the train wreck LC is making it out to be! I think the park is great, they just need to have a scare in visitor numbers before they realise guest satisfaction does need improving in some areas! Doesn't make the place a "shambles" by any means.

A Tardis crash landed on some rocks might work! Now you mention it though you're probably right!

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Although I hate to admit it, LC is right about the 'plaza structure' possibly being Tardis shaped. Personally I'd hate it to be Doctor Who, the show tries too hard to be clever and scary, even though their target audience stretches to a very young group of people. I think because the show is/was so popular, they'd be so much hype that I really doubt Merlin would be able to live up to it! A 10m high warehouse doesn't scream epic Doctor Who attraction to me, and I believe they're only building 3m underground. I'm still so excited to see how this turns out though! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I completely agree, although to stand a chance in a debate your posts need to be reasonable and go further than "I hate this" or "I hate that"... Saying that, your post above does actually explain a bit on why you don't like it, which was a pleasant change! Anyway, little rant from me over! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well on Tuesday I got fastpass for Cabin in the Woods and MBV. CITW was walk on with fastpass, MBV was 10 minutes with fastpass, so we were chuffed with that! Might be different on every night though... I didn't notice any overselling of fastpass when I visited this week, they'd sold out on a lot of the packages and time slots! They also weren't letting in too many fastpass holders which was great! I also thought general customer service was a lot better too, at least in my experience. I felt like all the staff made an effort and I think that really shows!

I wouldn't hold your breath, the building is 10m high, and I doubt they can build too deep underground... Actually thinking about it, Vengeance would fit quite nicely in that buidling

^ It's still there! Just look closely under where it says "Proposed 2016 Attraction" or whatever Swarm and Saw are on the map, so it can't be that old! My guess is that they just add drawings to the map whenever a major attraction comes along...