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What happened to the Undertaker animatronic that used to be in the Goolish Garden?

I’m happy to say I watched a POV of Alton Manor and noticed the wheel on the hurse is spinning

@Cornflakes what brands of clothing and furniture did you used to be able to purchase on Towers Street.

Does anyone think Alton Manor is unfinished and will temporarily close for a while for finishing touches,like Nemesis Sub Terra did in 2012? I think Alton Manor would benefit from extra theming and minor tweaks. I think that by July/August Alton Manor will be complete and even better than it is currently.

@Exodus Matt it was named after Toys R Us a global chain of toy shops.

@Benin what do you think of the shops new name? Personally I think it’s ridiculous. It’s not an antique shop so why name it Attic Of Antiques.People will enter the shop expecting to purchase an antique and discover Alton Towers merchandise for sale. So far the new name for Sppoks’RUs is the only thing I dislike about the Alton Manor retheme. I must say overall The Curse Of Alton Manor and surrounding refurbishment is a huge upgrade on Duel.

Personally I think the rumours about the Duck from The Flume being used in Alton Manor are quackers. Realistically I don’t think the Duck was remotely scary nor can I think of a scene it would be suitable for. I must congratulate whoever started this rumour as it’s got massive. I hope I’m proved wrong and The Flume Duck does feature in Alton Manor. The Duck was hilarious and would soften a ride that is primarily scary. I loved The Duck. Personally I think he’s been wasted by continuing to reside in the SBNO indoor section of The Flume. I’m surprised Alton Towers don’t sell soft toys of this legendary animatronic. The Duck is as probably as symbolic to Alton Towers as Henry Hound was in the 1980’s and 1990’s.

Does anyone know if Spooks’Rus the shop that was adjacent to Duel has been renamed. I know Spooks’Rus has received a paint job due to the Alton Manor retheme. I hope the shop only has cosmetic changes and retains its name. The name Spooks’Rus was awesome it suited the area. The name was also a reminder of Toys’RUs a now bankrupt chain of Toy Shops that I and probably most of you grew up with.

I have just looked back at the Alton Towers 2022 Park map. I was looking at Gloomy Wood. I spotted an inaccuracy in the location of Dave’s Crypt. Dave’s Crypt was in between the former Food Kiosk and Duel. On the map Dave’s Crypt is shown to be at the end of Haunted Hollow.

@Benin what scenes do you think the ones we’ve seen photos of have replaced? Regarding the Dinning Room I’m expecting the column monster to have been dished. It won’t fit into the theme of a Haunted Dolls House. I hope the undertaker from the Goolish Garden remains. Even if the Goolish Garden has been ripped out the undertaker could be repurposed as a butler. For instance the undertaker could be in the first scenes welcoming riders into Alton Manor. Another possibility is the undertaker could be relocated to the Dinning Room. Butlers were often employed in the Victorian era to deliver food.

@Benin do you think the Hall Of Spiders will remain the same as when Alton Manor was Duel? @Benin what scenes other than The Dinning Room and Hall Of Spiders do you expect to still feature? I hope the Goolish Garden remains.

@Benin your spot on, I noticed the Spider scene. I’m glad the Hall Of Spiders is still there. Those animatronic Spiders were cute and funny,unless your arachnophobic. I’m also pleased the Dinning Room has also survived the refurbishment. In actual fact I think the Dinning Room has been massively enchanted,with extra theming and more appropriate lighting. Finally I’m elated that the transit system and carriages are the same. Note the carriages have had slight changes,for instance the boos that were on the back have been removed. I wonder if the original Emily Alton scene in the drawing room will remain. I wouldn’t be surprised if the dolls house is relocated incorporated into the Attic scene. As for the Emily Alton and Snowy peppers ghost I think it’ll be incorporated into one of the new scenes. I really hope the iconic Emily Alton and Snowy soundtrack that has played in the ride for 30 years is made the soundtrack of a scene.

Is it only me who thinks they’ll be an oversized kids bedroom containing some of the theming From Toyland Tours?Much of the theming in Toyland Tours was toys. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Toyland Tours theming has been stored in a staff only area. I can see in my head Emily Alton’s bed with the Elecoptor or one of the massive Teddy Bears from Toyland Tours on it. I think the scenes Alton Towers have realised photos of are the Grand Hall,former skeleton hall and the hideously bad Zombie Lab final. I hope The Grand Hall,Hall Of Spiders and the Goolish Garden remain with slight theming modifications. These scenes would be applicable to a Dolls House. I wouldn’t be surprised if the photographed Attic scene leads into the Hall Of Spiders. I won’t be at Alton Towers on Saturday however I’ll be glued to the internet. I’ll certainly watch any POVS that are uploaded. I expect Theme Park Worldwide will upload a POV if Alton Towers allows.

Regarding Congo River Rapids I’ve been given the following response to asking if the fountains are returning this year. I also inquired about the reopening of Nemesis Sub Terra. The answer to that question is also included.

@coasterverse you say this but Chessington had a Gruffalo animatronic made in 6 months. Bubbleworks closed on the 6th of September and the Gruffalo River Ride Adventure opened the following March. Alton Manor could have been in the making for a couple of years. Duel wasn’t maintained marvellously for a few years. This could’ve been because Alton Towers were working on its refurbishment.

Yesterday Alton Towers dropped part of the storyline for Alton Manor into the world. Judging from the plot of the Ride Snowy could be involved. The plot could be that due to Emily Alton’s loneliness her Parents bought her a Cat which she named Snowy. I’d love to see both Emily Alton and Snowy appear as animatronics. I get the feeling Emily’s Parents will be in the narrative. Should this be true could Sir Henry Alton (Emily’s Dad) return to the ride. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjWvPXG2NL9AhWehP0HHXxyDWEQFnoECAkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.altontowers.com%2Fexplore%2Ftheme-park%2Frides-attractions%2Fthe-curse-at-alton-manor%2F&usg=AOvVaw1ix3JpsoUHAQBLbTnGgw8Q I hope the original effect of Emily Alton in the Dolls House is retained. This effect has been consistent in both the original Haunted House and Duel. Without this effect the seemingly sweet Young Girl we love wouldn’t exist.

@Benin I suspect the guy who posted this knows an Alton Towers employee. The same poster has made statements about The Curse At Alton Manor.

I read the following post on Instagram. Note it was posted by another enthusiast and not officially by Alton Towers. It appears that after 7 years the Fountains are returning to Congo River Rapids.

I’ve heard the beloved,Thorpe Park classic was sacrificed due to Granfather rights. Can someone please explain what this means? I’ve not heard this terminology before. If Grandfather rights prohibited Thorpe from relocating Rocky Express why was Lumber Jump allowed to be relocated to Amity and rethemed to High Striker. I am really worried that Mr Monkey’s Banana Boat is on borrowed time. Rocky Express and Mr Monkey’s Banana Boat opened within a year of each other. The loss of Mr Monkey’s Banana Boat would be a bigger punch in the guts. This ride is the sole surviving ride themed to the iconic Thorpe Park Rangers. Furthermore it’s a great attraction that can be appreciated by every generation. Should Thorpe Park redevelop Mr Monkey’s Banna Boat I hope it’s relocated. Ideally Thorpe Park would see sense and keep Mr Monkey’s Banana Boat until it’s irreparable. I hope that in the future Mr Monkey becomes the mascot of Thorpe Park. When the Angry Birds IP expires I would like it to be replaced by an area themed too The Thorpe Park Rangers. This area could include a relocated Mr Monkey’s Banana Boat,rethemed King Pig's Wild Hog Dodgems and a film of The Thorpe Park Rangers in the 4D cinema. Does anyone else think the Thorpe Park Rangers should be given an area upon the redevelopment of Angry Birds Land?

Dreamland is nearing the end of an extensive refurbishment. As some will know the rides at Dreamland have taken a backseat since 2020. Fortunately this is changing. Dreamland are once again investing in the rides. Each ride has been thoroughly overhauled. It appears that the rides restored by David Littleboy are becoming operational again. Unfortunately for those who liked The Speedway it’s been removed and sold. After a couple of years under the influence of Richard Caddell Dreamland are opening their own attractions. Included in the refurbished Dreamland will be the Big Wheel that has been renovated,the David Littleboy rides expect the Speedway,Scenic Railway, Busy Bee Rollercoaster and Helter Skelter. In addition they’ll be new additions. Yes you read it correctly NEW ADDITIONS!! Dreamland has supposedly recovered from the implications of The Coronavirus pandemic. These new additions will be a refurbished Hall Of Mirrors,new Crazy Golf Course,Train Ride. I’m overjoyed and surprised to be saying this but Dreamland have bought Cliffhanger the Rollercoaster from Blackgang Chine on The Isle Of White!! There’s construction workers at Dreamland who are installing the supports into the ground. Once this Rollercoaster opens it’ll be around for the foreseeable future. Dreamland would not pay for supports to be dug in the ground for a temporary addition. Note The Dreamland Drop installed in 2018 will never be ridden again. Despite only being a few years old apparently many new parts are required. Sadly Dreamland would rather invest in other new rides. It’s tragic that such an iconic and brilliant ride only operated at Dreamland for 2 years. I Dreamland didn’t want to invest in this ride they should sell it. I hate rides being left SBNO at Theme Parks and left to rot. Overall I’m happy that Dreamland has undergone a huge renovation. I look forward to seeing what it’s like. Apparently they’ll be a grand reopening day. It goes without saying that the music and entertainment section of Dreamland has also had a refit. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjZ1_Tqtsv9AhWCQ0EAHRdnCksQxfQBKAB6BAgbEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Faccessaa.co.uk%2Fdreamland-margate-to-double-number-of-gigs-following-winter-renovations%2F&usg=AOvVaw1OL6JauJTcfFj1IrkAimPA

@JoshC. Old Town was vertically Thorpe’s Mexicana. I know that Old Town was themed too a Canadian Town and Mexicana is a Mexican Town. Despite this both areas shared a similar appearance. An example of theming I think could be relocated is the man who stood at the centre of Rocky Express. You cannot guarantee Theming won’t be relocated because of a different theme. The vehicle that was the operating booth for Ripsaw,in Forbidden Valley,at Alton Towers made its way to The World Of Jumanji.

Who else thinks the placement of actual rocks around Trawler Trouble was an obvious oversight? These rocks were installed last year prior to the boat sailing from Thorpe Park. Surly the dimensions would have informed Chessington that rocks weren’t practical. Currently the rocks are being removed. I hope a small pond replaced the rocks.

Following the fire it suffered l July Scourpeon Express has been SBNO. Currently the ride is being repaired and refreshed. Does anyone know if the theming from Old Town will be relocated to Chessington? Mexicana the area where Scorpion Express is located has a similar theme to Old Town at Thorpe Park. Adding some theming from Old Town to Scorpion Express would enhance the ride. It’s evident that Thorpe and Chessington exchange things. Some examples are Eclipse left Thorpe while Samurai arrived at Thorpe and Chessington gained Timber Tug Boat. I think the transfer of Timber Tug Boat was at Chessington’s gain and Thorpe’s pain. This Rockin Tug is an enjoyable ride no matter the age of the rider. Timber Tug Boat now Trawler Trouble is a surprisingly forceful example. Trawler Trouble is more thrilling than most Rockin Tugs. The spin is insane and the backwards and forwards motion exhilarating.

I have just been on the Alton Towers website and Enterprise has finally been removed from the rides list. In other Alton news it’s been confirmed today that a new Retro Squad ride is joining. Finally there is no mention of Nemesis Sub Terra on the Alton Towers website. I don’t interpret it as Nemesis Sub Terra isn’t returning. With the amount of refurbishment work that’s been seen in and around Nemeses Sub Terra is almost certain it’s returning. Now Alton Towers have started teasing The Curse At Alton Manor and new Retro Squad ride I think the return of Nemesis Sub Terra will be announced. Despite the absence of Alton Towers’s most recognisable rollercoaster (Nemesis) 2023 is looking to be a marvellous season. The return of some aspects of the original Haunted House and bigger role for Emily Alton and Snowy alone make 2023 a great season. Should the likely return of Nemesis Sub Terra occur, it’ll hold the following records. Firstly the longest SBNO ride at a Merlin Theme Park to reopen and secondly the shortest lived operational ride of the currant century. What I mean by the current century is since the year 2000. For those who are pedantic The Flying Fish at Thorpe Park was never SBNO. The ride was entirely removed for the 2005/6 seasons before relocated to its current location.

I was looking on YouTube for videos of Chessington and Thorpe Park from the 90’s. I came across this video. Despite it’s title to any enthusiasts like ourselves it’s clearly Chessington. As soon as I saw the thumbnail I realised it was Chessington. The rocks of The Runaway Train are very rememberable. Naturally many elements of Chessington have been changed over time. A few things that remain are the shed on Old Crock’s Ralley. The shed is still the same structurally apart from cosmetic adjustments. Obviously The Runaway Train remains minus the rockwork. I believe the play park featured in the video was located on what is now The World Of Jumanji. On the subject of The Runaway Train aka Scorpion Express I’m overjoyed that Chessington has repaired the fire damage and reopening this beloved classic in April