JoshC.

Before we jump on board the Thorpe bashing train, let's remember a few things... -A picture means very little unless there's context to be placed within it. -A long Fastrack queue doesn't necessarily imply there are any more negative effects to the normal queue than a short Fastrack queue. -The number of Fastrack tickets that can be sold is dependent on the length of a ride's queue. -A ride breaking down and reopening later can cause havoc with the Fastrack system. -There were likely many guests who had planned visits for today with the intention of riding Ghost Train. There's a good chance that many of those people are AP holders, who quite possibly also visited during AP day and so have some Priority Passes to use up. Today would therefore be seen as a good day to cash those Priority Passes in, which can lead to an inflating in a Fastrack queue since they're not taken out of the Fastrack quota. -This is the first time such an incident has occurred this season. And aside from extremely busy days, such as at Fright Nights, I can't recall a time in the past couple of seasons when Fastrack queues looked that bad (correct me if I'm wrong)? Of course, bad things should never happen, but sometimes these things do happen. I'm not defending (or attacking) the park with any of the above points, simply just pointing out some facts to remember before people go "THORPE NEVER LEARN AND ARE TERRIBLE AT EVERYTHING!"

"Yeah hi mate, that James Allgood is back again. Best come quick because he always photographs my good side..."

Wasn't the discussion more of the shop signage awkwardly covering the chipboards and them being replaced, as opposed to the chipboard themselves? Speaking of the ship signage though, they are the same shape as in the plans, so they won't be replaced by a different shaped signed. Given the look of the queue info board, I doubt they're being changed at all.

Odd. I don't have a subscription to FT; I just Googled 'Derren Brown Ghost Train' and clicked News. That article was the fifth one down and worked for me fine, so I assumed linking it would have worked. The full article though...

Interestingly, this article on the Financial Times says that Ghost Train cost £13m... https://next.ft.com/content/c1eac800-12e5-11e6-839f-2922947098f0 Since we've had the "largest investment ever made" talk for ages, I'd assume this is a mistake and the number was either misheard (£30m) or a typo (£23m?)

I don't see a woodie for them to RMC-ify years later though. :/ Unless the coaster top centre is meant to look like an RMC, even though it looks rather steel-y? *Insert RMC joke about what's the difference here*

Not going to lie, but I fully expect this to be a terrible attraction. McKamey doesn't know how to make scare attractions. McKamey Manor is not a scare attraction, it's a shock attraction which essentially appeals to anyone interested in some sort of sado-masochism. They're two completely different things which need two completely different trails of thought to be successfully created. If this is going to be "watered down" and "suitable for all", that suggests McKamey is trying to create a scare attraction, but living off of the hype / name of McKamey Manor. That only spells disappointment for scare attractions fans, "fans" of McKamey and basically anyone in between. If that's just a lie and it is an extreme shock attraction, then it's just going to be terrible like all shock attractions are (in my opinion). Cracked was very different to McKamey Manor from what I've read, but was still a very extreme event. However, I believe the creators have mentioned they're taking a break from scare attractions now?

On a different note, here's an image from swooddow on TTSP... Nice little update to the rotating wall, which will of course read 'Mind Gap' when the wall is turned around.

I read that quote as referring to the length of time you were wearing the VR, since the build up to that paragraph talks about Galactica's ride time - and hence time wearing the VR. Since we know that VR only plays a part of the attraction, it would make sense that they're not revealing how long you spend wearing it.

I'm fairness, if they haven't seen it removed from the ride line up it's not too unreasonable a question to ask.

A look at the press release on Thorpe's website reveals that the reasoning for choosing 1871 as the year is because Derren was born in 1971, and by rolling back 100 years, they reached a a Victorian year. Also... The use of the word "seems" is very striking to me. Obviously we know there's more to this than meets the eye, and that grand illusion plays a part. However, the photos from yesterday do make it seem very bare inside. So, wild speculation suggests that we will board the train in an abandoned warehouse, have some different dimension VR stuff happen, then leave the train in the same physical area, but completely new surroundings? Would be a very awesome effect if so!

Maybe it's just me, but I don't have a problem with it? Fastrack is a service the park offers to save time on queueing. It's only natural that they'd want to advertise it to some degree. Saying they've got a service you can pay for to reduce your queue time next to queue times makes sense.

From TPM Facebook...

A scare maze is just a walk through with actors. Aside from choosing a route in some mazes, there's very little active participation by guests. Escape rooms see you locked in a room or (as in Containment) a series of rooms, where you have to put in a code / key to get out in a set period of time. To get the code, guests are actively participating, solving riddles, searching for clues, etc. Actors can be used to either help or hinder people, and try to scare people. Escape rooms require a lot more thought and detail to be pulled off than scare mazes. The actors also need to be more focused since they're with a set amount of guests for a longer period of time. If you don't use actors, you need a lot more work put into them as well.

The thing is there's also scare mazes that are open all year round / outside of Halloween, which are also very successful. But there does seem to be some sort of weird scenario where these things are successful outside of theme parks, successful in theme parks at Halloween, but not so successful in theme parks outside Halloween. Maybe Containment can be the solution to this problem, but until we get more info about it, I remain very sceptical.

Yeah, I did think it might be a little too high tech at the moment, but I have little clue on just how advanced 3D technology is at the moment, so it's hard to know what to expect.

I believe there's two photo points. One is simply in front of a green screen and forms the lenticular / 3D photo frame for £15. The other is for the head in a jar. I assumed it would be a 3D printed model of your face in a jar, but the above photo would suggest otherwise?

From Owen over on TTSP... Lenticular photos cost £15 (£10 if you have a Digipass I believe?) Head in a jar photo. Notice also the 'Scan here' sections. So it would appear photos are taken before the ride and you're given a ticket. If you want to consider buying the photo, you'd then scan the ticket and go from there.

Only 200 of those merch bundles avaliable though - won't last long! The adrenaline mistake is hilarious though, unless Merlin are trying to crack the pharmaceutical industry?

Want it Dreamworks themselves who pulled the plug because the idea lacked overall quality?

Or that they just aren't finished yet?

The best thing to do is to ignore things like this. Don't give their site the views, their social media the attention and dint hand over your money and buy their paper. If necessary, Towers will take appropriate action. If not, they'll let it slide and it will affect so few people that it simply won't matter.

From TPM Facebook... Foundations have seemingly been laid. Curious what will happen now.