Marc

Hey ive never aid Baco isnt rough.. Dont mean I cant enjoy it

Plenty has been done this year to be fair and the parks looking better than it has in years. In a perfect world everything would be done, but there will never be an unlimited budget for them kind of things. What has been done is good and I'm sure theres more to come!

Some people find it quite bad - it used to be particularly bad in some points back in 2004/5 but now its fine to ride and quite enjoyable. Its certainly not what id call smooth, but its not what id call rough either *Looks at Saw and Smiler"

Thorpe's rule is no cameras of any kind on any ride, that's been the case for years. Some people do manage to sometimes sneak cameras on rides but if caught they will be asked to put them away.

X has 4 trains not 5 (I think x no way out had 5?) only ever runs 3 trains too, '4 makes no difference as it requires a train to allways stop. I expect it will be back to 3 for main season.

I don't think its fair to call VIP pass holders queue jumpers... regardless of if you agree with the pass or not, if you buy fastrack your entitled to a shorter queue, I'm sure at some point we've all used some form of means to a sorter queue be that fastrack, priority pass, I don't think that makes any of us queue jumpers now!

There's no pully cables on it yet or restraints. It looks like it's had a lot of work this year again - wouldnt surprise me if it's slightly late.

Training on a preview day? Surely not !

The vip pass diss not affect your premium / standard pass. Fastrack is going to be there regardless. A vip pass holder simply gets a ultimate faetrack ticket from the allocation so imo don't really affect me as a premum pass holder.

Moved all the VIP Annual pass talk to a new topic so we can carry on the discussion in a more relevant thread http://forum.maniahub.com/topic/10893-merlin-vip-annual-pass/ Cheers!

I see your point , and your right every guest Should be treated to the same standard regardless of what they've paid. Maybe they could brand it better - maybe as a platinum pass or somthing. Don't have a problem with what the product is personally, if people are happy to pay that much then a buffet and a few rides after park close is fair enough IMO

Could be worse - I remember at towers last year in the front row queue for Rita , one train was broken and vip pass holders were re-riding the only open front row meaning the front row queue was liturally at a standstill... Have no problem with perks after park close - don't effect everyone else and for the cost of it its fair.

Coasters closed around 4:30ish - all other rides at 4. All in all a very good day, we arrived at around 9:30 and didnt see the queues to get in posted earlier but I'm sure they will learn from that tomorrow. But in fairness they did open a few rides later. Was good to get on Detonator, Loggers and X (at the very end!) - all unexpected additions to the line up. Saw the Ride was shut but I'd take X over that anyday Lots of things across the park have been spruced up which is nice to see, really looking forward to the start of the main season now!

By the sounds of it some things will be available a bit later than 4 - not too sure what!Edit: coasters open till 4:30 - may or may not include x ! Queue is being cleaned.

Posted a pic on the live for you!

We just asked at the entrance and they said come back in half hour or so and that they are trying their best

There are staff stood outside saw so I don't think it's them staff. Staff at x are currently removing the temporary fences from in front if it..

Friends and Family tickets are given to staff of Merlin attractions. 3000 sounds a lot but they are valid over the 2 days so very much doubt it will make much difference.

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Pretty sure you can cancel your tickets if you no longer need them Not sure if this makes them instantly available for people to book.

I guess that makes everything in every theme park a gimmick then?

The park is open 10 till 4... they are perfectly within their rights to run a private event after this. If they open any rides later its a bonus.

Its clear that they are not 100% sure whats opening yet seeing as the list does keep changing. Its best just to keep an eye on that to avoid disappointment.

I doubt that they are reducing the line up to save money - id be surprised if this weekend isn't fairly busy looking at the weather. They will be aiming to have as many rides available, the list on the website are defiantly be open and anything which becomes ready between now and then will open I suspect. If you don't like the look of the list on the site then the best thing is to not go and wait till official opening IMO.

Just because a rides closed on the preview weekend dont mean it will be closed when the park opens for the main season...