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I'm always amazed by the amount of people who try it - and the amount of people who let them get away with it. When I'm in the queue NO ONE gets passed. Those who try are told politely to do one. I've never had anyone try and start on me about it but I guess it's just a matter of time. Glad to hear staff did kick them out, I've never seen them do it even though it is threatened everywhere so nice to know they will act on their warning.

Oh, you know what I mean!! Tired typing makes for bad post.Still, the jinx will happen. It's like saying the word 'quiet' at work. It will only end in disaster!

...and there's the jinx. Half of it will burn down again tomorrow now!!

Oh, it is. Mostly. Some of it hurts like hell instead, but the bits that flow well are just beyond awesome. But with true 4D the designers do fully control all aspects of the ride experience - the twisting of the seats is designed into the ride and controlled by the extra rails along the track, it's not spinning at random. And that's why I think B+M could excel with a design like this if they can put their smoothness of engineering into the seat control. I hope that one day we will see.The shortness of the track is one of my concerns with the design too. But I think I might be underestimating the scale of it all in my head - it is hard to visualise the size from the plans, can't wait to see it go up now.

Hi, I think the oracle that is the amazing Mr Pritchard is best to answer this, but I think (in order).... *It ran out of CCR station. Queues did not happen, old Thorpe was very different!! *The whole thing occurred on the train. Once it was a short distance passed Thunder river the train was 'hijacked' and took a branch line to the right, which I would imagine was fairly close to the back of Thunder river. *I don't remember anything like that, but like I say this is REALLY sketchy in my mind. *There was only one scene where the train was taken to, everyone sat on the train (except the selected kiddies) while the pirates did their thing. *I remember it feeling really secluded in the trees, as if you had been taken miles from anywhere. *I think the driver mainly spoke to express his 'surprise' at the hijacking. I wish I could remember it more clearly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X%C2%B2_(roller_coaster) EDIT - and these Intamin zacspin things are in no way a 4d coaster, they are barley even 3d. But I digress.

Feel for you, was the same for me 15 years ago when I was your age. Funnily enough I was a lifeguard for a while too, didn't stick at it though as there just was not enough going on to keep me interested. MILF watching is not healthy as a full time sport! One thing my sister did - do you know if you have any local or county swimming clubs nearby? They usually hire the pool from the council unmanned and it is their own responsibility to hire a lifeguard, they might employ you directly. It would mean early starts and late finishes for shifts that are only a few hours long because that's when they train, but it is a step into the place - and then you'll be that staff friend that gets the next proper job! Find them and approach them.I would say just get ANY job no matter if it is what you want to do, and then start looking for what you really want. I got a Saturday job in Sainsburys which I thought was short term, ended up there 10 years as a manger and mostly loved it. But now I've Ieft that and do my dream job (police) which I'm sure I wouldn't have got without the supermarket management experiences behind me. If you've tried that many places without success maybe you CV needs a bit of work.There is nothing worse on a CV than a big gap of unemployment time - fill it with something, even if it is a McJob!!

I'm not so sure. If they can get the actual motion of the seats to work smoothly, and I'm sure there is a way they can, they may well try it. By turning the seats to counter the outward forces of the track you can get in the most comfortable and floaty positions imaginable, as x does manage on a couple of fleeting occasions. It's getting the seat rotation smooth that's a massive challenge, but I think it would be well worth them giving it a go.

The first two inversions do look great, but after that it all looks a bit aimless to me. Obviously I don't know this as we can only imagine the experience from the plans on paper. X is insane, it is quite horrible and quite brilliant in equal measures. No, a B+M 4D isn't the be all and end all. But there hasn't been one yet, and I want one. Whats wrong with that?

No, I want to believe!! I'm 99% sure it won't be too, but really? You seen the plans down to the detail of train mechanics design? No. When exactly did we get passed this? I don't remember that confirmation being made by Thorpe.BTW, I know you are right, I just don't want you to be. I think the layout seems somewhat uninspiring as it stands, where as adding the 4d element could make it stunning.

I think I'm still convincing myself the ride will be a 4d b+m prototype, and am preparing myself to be massively disappointed when it inevitably isn't!!

The only time I've seen 'linear' near 'coaster' would be the launch system of something like Superman escape which refers to the synchronised motors powering the launch. But it is not called a 'Linear coaster', I don't think it is likely this is what it stands for.

Can't believe they didn't go for "vote oblivion - it's fantatastic"

Wow, that's just crazy! Is it true? I thought while they were churning out the films Lionsgate would have considered it promotion and, as long as the quality of the ride was good enough not to actually harm the brand, it would have been near enough free. Scratching each others back kind of thing. How many times has Thorpe Park paid to plaster the Saw name over the TV and Radio while there was a film out to make money from?Think I need to get me a job as Thorpe Parks contract negotiator!

I don't know how these deals work, but what has either side got to gain in removing the franchise? As has been said, Saw as an ongoing production has died. Lionsgate have nothing to either protect or promote with the name so I can't imagine much value is placed on it any more. If it can be bought fairly cheaply they may as well keep it going - would probably cost a lot less then spending on a re theme. Or are these IPs really that expensive?

maybe I'll calm it down on the teacups from now on!!

"DON'T BE A NEMESISSY". Love it.

With my work I come across this all too frequently. In 4 years I have been to two train suicides (in both cases the person very swiftly and successfully ended their life), one hanging and literally hundreds of overdose and self harm attempts - not one of which has been successful. I would imagine this is why train can be the method of choice. These things don't bother me too much, it's just the way I am and I suppose to an extent I've got used to it. But I know it really freaks a lot of my colleagues out; consider we literally have to go and clear up the mess and then inform loved ones of the deceased, neither of which are very pleasant jobs to say the least. The train driver often will not know they have hit someone, but when they do see it coming it must be a terrible feeling for them. I'm sure some people who commit suicide get to the point where they know the consequences of their actions but just don't care, but I would imagine 99% of people have not given a second thought to these knock on effects of what they do - not out of spite or selfishness but purely because they've got so much on their plate they can't cope with that they just can't see it.Whatever the inconvenience you suffer as a result of this just remember - someone somewhere is having a worse day than you.

^I had error message. Only tried once though.

Amazing how quickly everything changes out there. It's 6 years since I went and a lot of it sounds like a completely different place. Must go and get myself a virgin brochure...

Spinball - two years after Air, one year before Rita. A filler year, and a ride that I put in the same bracket as 13 in terms of hardware quality.Anyway, the advert is for Altons best ride ever - where's the button for Toyland Tours?!!

Don't get me wrong, as I've said I do enjoy a lot of things about 13. I had no major thrill expectations myself as from very early construction pics it was clear what type of ride was going up. But in reference to this vote I just don't see it in the same league as the other 4, it's in the group bellow with spinball and mine train because that's the sort of ride it is (kiddie/family). Which shouldn't be the type of ride we get from a SW major investment year, I'd expect it in a filler year!

No it's not, that's my problem with it. The actual ride is not good enough. The idea and (most of the) execution of the indoor section is great, but the actual ride they've done it with is lame to start with, and made downright pathetic with the trim breaks. If they had built a proper thrill coaster with that trick in it it could have been amazing, but it's not.

True. Rita is no coaster triumph, but I would at least put it in the same league as t'others, just at the bottom of that league. I actually enjoy the final 3rd of 13 a lot, and the outdoor section wouldn't be too bad if it wasn't for the invasion of the trims. But overall see 13 on a par with spinball, the second league of Towers rides if you like. Whichever way you roll it, it is a kids/family coaster with a gimmick, it never should have been SW material and the only thing that puts it in that class is the cost, not the experience. How they managed to spend 15m on it is beyond me.