Project LC

^Ha, but seriously if they are playing the long game high throughput rides should be the way forward. Doesn't have to be a topspin but vortex is coming near the end of its life with in the next few years as is slammer so logically it would be wise to replace them with higher throughput rides if their main complaint is long queues.

Very true but at the moment all they are doing for me is turning me into an angry guest which was somewhat happy with the old system. I would say as a nation the British are very good with queuing and am quite sure that the queues can be solved in the conventional way instead of this new system which as you said Disney failed at. For example the silent disco which they run is always quite enjoyable and makes the wait time feel much less. I'm quite sure that you can source most complaints of long queue times from storm surge. That is always a massive queue which is definitely a let down. I imagine the next high source of complaints would be saw. If they are playing the long game then investing in some high through put rides would be the best way. I know its not everyone's tatse but the new topspins have a through put of 950 and would off a different type of attraction which Thorpe don't already have.

Because I don't queue an hour for the swarm I wait until its quite times when it drops to anywhere from walk on to 20 minutes. Reserve and ride will mean its at a constant queue time through out the day. THORPE PARK Official It is not compulsory, but priority will be given to those who have registered for Reserve N' Ride That sounds worrying to anyone in the normal queue. This system is going to need a lot of attention to get it to work correctly. Also I'm still failing to see where the queues are going, the only place they can go is towards other queues. However at least now you can wait for stealth while queuing virtually for swarm. I guess the system also allows you to queue for the swarm while waiting virtually for the swarm.

However I highly doubt fastrack, normal, reserve and ride, dissabilty work too well together where there is only 2 queuelines to start with.

Although it is depending on if it crashs again. They may have increased server capacity but will it be enough. There will be many more people there than monday so you never know it may be normal queueing for everyone.

Their facebook acknowledges that problem but has no answers at all, apart from make all the rides on this system. That initself is scary and something I dont really want to think about. Other parks used similar systems in the past but no longer do. Surely that should be a warning sign to thorpe. They all failed for one reason or another and I doubt thorpe has managed to adress all of these.

RnR has great potential to make it harder to do all the rides if its only virtual queuing, although if its a physical queue then what happens there. So you have the physical queue in the queueline, the fastrack people in the fastrack line so where do the RnR people go. Even by their tone I would be surprised if a physical queue existed. My bad looking at their comments on the post it seem to say there is physical and virtual. It seems to me that the virtual queue goes up the exit, and so anyone with disablities ia stuffed as there is no longer a queue for them.

A pinch of salt is needed with every percentage given, ever. Management will see it as good but really it isn't. A large rise can be put down to people willing to spend more as consumer confidence is up. And they cant forget the 10% decrease in 2012.

The 2nd train can move as on sunday we saw it roll out of the shed for a bit for it to return back to the shed.

Even if they do pull it off it still prevents the way I want to go round the park. Even if I got a smartphone with perfect internet access it would still be annyoing. I play the system they have and will get 20 rides on very busy days. However this will force me to wait longer times as many more people will see when queues get shorter and all queues will be about the same waiting time.

you can make a queueless park if you let about 500 people in. Something tells me Thorpe wont be doing that though with the exception of summer nights. Although saying that the last summer night still managed to get 15-20 minute queues.

On other sites its just become a list of hate. So at least here we have 2 sides to an argument.

Very true, although Thorpe lost a out a weeks worth of visitors around Easter because it was so dam cold. twice I went around easter to find, rush, Colossus and saw closed, one one occasion it was so cold they closed at 12 as nothing would work.

There's lies, dam lies and statistics. Something I feel Thorpe park will turn to, to justify reserve and ride.

clearly I'm failing to get my point across so I'm going to give up.

I would say that the shift in marketing came late in the season, around mid august. So to have that huge change in people is a bit odd. Look at CWOA, they also did very little and they increased by 15%. However I feel we are going a bit off topic.

swarm backwards and x were only minor, when you look at how the smiler increased AT gate figures by 4.2% I would say that what Thorpe did was next to nothing.

It was more said as a joke, although them doing nothing last year did increase gate figures by 11.1%

Maybe they should learn from their gate figures and do nothing to make them increase, that way they wont have to introduce the system I have come to despise.

I say 3 hours because in the trails for the swarm last year on multiple occasions the swarm wait time was 4 hours.

I guess it belongs here but looks like Thorpe did rather well last year for attendance figures. They had a rise of 11.1% bringing their numbers to 2 million. Alton didn't do so well despite the smiler they only rose by 4.2%.

Well you say that but those guests in the park would have wasted time by riding flats (or if they are mad and do what Thorpe said, shopping) while they thought they were queuing virtually to find that they hadn't been queuing and have just wasted an hour of their day. I know that this trail it was called off pretty quickly and the park stayed open longer but if this happened in late July and you thought you were queuing for 3 hours virtually then the park isn't going to staying open an extra 3 hours because of their mishap.

I like to think that "changes" is someone at management smashing their head against a table crying. There is just so many things I dislike about this I want it gone.

so the Monday one went so well Tuesdays was cancelled. I'm assuming that the problem was a tec side fault.

Has anyone been to the recent trials yet, it would be good to hear what actaully happened at them especially considering if on the Monday they stopped by 11am.