Marc

I agree loggers was in need of work -and it even got a fair bit of work to its supports not too many years ago - as for the anti rollbacks I’m sure this has popped up before - they were designed to pop out when the lift stopped. Of course - but if at the time / now they have no intention of keeping the ride for a long time - what would be the point in spending money on its long term future (being a totally different debate as to if it should be within the parks long term future or not I’ll add!) Also let’s not pretend Europa isn’t a multi million pound company! This goes back to the point i made as to if the rides in the parks long term future - of course I’d love it to be and do hope we either see it return or be replaced with an equally good log flume. These rides (maybe with the exception of Depth Charge) all attract huge ridership - people are willing to queue 90 minutes + for the likes of Storm Surge and Tidal Wave - I’d say the park easily has enough water rides for our climate although agree I enjoyed riding loggers more then them!

The thing is - you say they are not telling me the truth but i still wouldn't be surprised if Loggers Leap reopened at some point. They have been very clear with rides which have closed in the past - just this year they've announced Slammer is closing and not coming back - all traces removed from the map / website where as Loggers Leap is still acknowledged - all be it in a small way and the official line is they "hope for it to make a splashback soon".

Loggers was probably my favorite water ride on park too - but i've no doubt its popularity had dropped of over its final years in the park - rarely would you see it gain much of a queue over 20 minutes where as "back in the day" it would attract huge queues. I disagree it was one of the most popular rides on park in its latter years. That maybe true - but its just like taking your car to the garage - if they tell you your 20 year old car needs this much spent on it - at that point you decide if its worth the investment or if its time to bite the bullet and make a change - this is obviously a much bigger scale of that. It wasnt long ago Loggers had alot of work done to its support structure and foundations on the main drop - im sure they had an idea of how long the ride would operate and what up-coming work was needed. As for Black Hole - it probably is a similar situation - but Towers had got the use out of The Black Hole what they wanted and made the choice to instead invest elsewhere - the same year opening Rita and then numerous installations since then- sure they could have no doubt kept the Black Hole open if they had wanted, but the powers that be decided it didn't wasn't worth the investment

As Baron said - Behind the scenes planning is just as much as part of redeveloping something as the construction work its self. I know you like the "left to rot" statement - but if loggers needs X amount of £ to remain operational, but the park had plans for that area in the near future, why waste the money on keeping a ride going what has no long term future? Its not like they are short of water rides.

Just the Thorpe Sharks standard logo isnt it? Always quite liked Shark's brand tbf - some nice touches within it! Got some pins on Sunday - I was shocked to see how bare the shelves were by the end of the day - good to see these things selling well!

In the grand scheme of running an event like Fright Nights, id expect the money paid to IMAScore wouldn't be a huge factor on deciding if a maze was to stay / leave. The fact that it was there and now has been removed would suggest to me its return isn't certain.

Really enjoyed it today - looked like there are a few finishing touches to be made but a good solid addition to the park!

Rumbas guns were actually turned off 2/3 weeks before the incident- don't think its related.

Its experiencing technical issues - no conspiracy - its unrelated to Stealths maintenance.

Thorpe have confirmed it on Social media yup. A Shame but no real surprise - i always enjoyed riding it but its reliability was always going to get the better of it one day - they did a hell of a good job keeping it going as long as they did but I guess eventually enough was enough.

As said - was there yesterday from around 9:30 - every coaster was open on maximum capacity - ghost train opened abit late but when it did was running well with , atlesst on the train I was on, all headsets

Thats what i'm saying - they have spent money on it when its been feasible to do so - the past 3/4 seasons have probably been Slammers best reliability wise

Loggers was obviously planned - it was advertised on the thrope site within days of the park closing - the fact that Slammer has had it's closed season work, had new signs bought suggests to me it's quite different to the loggers situation! Thorpe have shown since the ride opened they are willing to spend money on it if feasible.

The fact that slammer has clearly received closed season work, and even has new signage sat in its queue line suggests the issues with slammer were quite last minute and probably out of their control.

Stealth is set to be closed on Wednesday 26th April for anyone visting according to thorpepark.com

Hey Wont be able to visit in the next couple of weeks with work but keep an eye our for our meetups https://forum.maniahub.com/forum/54-tpm-official-meets/ - We will have atleast a couple more at thorpe this year (MOS Day / Evening and Fright nights!)

Looks like they have all opened now apart from Rumba... hopefully you can get back to enjoying your day

Dont see why that shouldn't continue - its already running significantly better than last year - fingers crossed all the work its had will keep it reliable long term. Also @TPGG open now - 5 mins queue if your on park!

Also when I rode on Sunday I beleve all headsets were working - makes the queue much quicker!

Opening time / within 30 mins of open time at worse - Based on my last few visits anyway!

https://www.thorpeparkmania.co.uk/articles/18-04-2017/John+Burton+Q+and+A Q&A with John Burton from Merlin Magic Making here - some geeky references too!

The park have night security - there's also (maybe) sill engineers around at 10 ish so they could have spotted them.

If scaffolding had been put up that would mean a lot! That said I'm sure that platforms veen there for a long time!

Running alot better over past couple days - Only rides not open for 10 this morning was Rocky Express and Samurai. (And Slammer of course!)

All coasters (Apart from Stealth) are open.. I'm a Celeb opens at 11. Just rocky express.. Significant improvement on the past few days.