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I would think there are other ways to make something look old and tatty, without throwing thousands of broken bricks and rubble into the area. It amazes me, the park are then shocked when someone launches a brick from the top of Colossus. What do you expect from your target audience, when bricks and rubble are so handy? You could almost add marker pens on the back of all the toilet stalls doors too!

Yes, I have pictures of the farm and how it's being used now with plants and greenary.All the listed buildings are still there as is the old ferry jetty. Very strange over there now and a great deal of what was once publc areas, are now flooded. You'll also find the Stealth car over there too!

Chessington's land, suits it's 'world of adventure' and Kobra is a lot of fun.The Saw island, is a pile of rubble and fences.Wild Asia.

I assume that you have been to other theme parks and seen other themed rides?I was excited about SAW and it's 'mysterious indoor section'. Although, I think you'd be crazy to say how amazing it is now.

I find it so strange when people rave about SAW. Ok, the building looks ok, but outside is just rubble and inside is not much really, a HUGE missed opportunity. Both SAW and Thirteen are from the same 'cannon' and I think very poor on theming. Raptor so far, is the best thing I have seen from Merlin (hopefully Krake, once we see the detail) in a long time, if not at all. My only bug with LC12 and Thorpe's theming is that once again they're going for the broken down, old, tatty look. Which is basicly them saying, hey lets theme it to look old and tatty and then, we'll never have to worry about it's up keep! Thorpe Park is widely known to be tatty enough as it is.Regardless, the scale of this addition is huge. Not only because it's B&M. A new island, toilets, I just hope they're prepared for the amount of people that will be sqeezing over the new Fish bridge to the island!

'Script' wise, the ride will still be being 'put together' and details aren't finalised, but one thing's for sure, with huge bits of theming going in, I expect marketing to have a field day! Loads of possibilities to grab our attention!While yes, often budgets get scaled down-as Storm Surge (how could it be scaled down any more, you may wonder!), LC12 is a far bigger project and the park will still pull out all the stops and just maybe, will have one or two little suprises yet to reveal about this one.. ;-)

It's a shame really. The ride isn't or rather, wouldn't be too bad in the right direction. If you saw some of the construction pictures before it was 'roofed', it's really ok and would make an awesome family coaster.I still stand by my comments on it being un-roofed, turned forwards and used as a step up from the Flying Fish/Saw--to the bigger rides!

If anything, I'd expect Depth Charge, Zodiac and Quantum to be next in the chopping board.

Great to hear they still tweak Duel. How do the zombies look?

I can't wait to see this thing, its so cute and it could almost sit happily in the square outside my house.Great to see the finshed thing.

I'm usually wedged into the front, with my long legs and I've been soaked! It's much better to have the front 'section' to yourself, feet on the seat, dry and comfy!One small bug of mine the last few seasons, is the amount of light in the tunnel, up lift one. Needs blacking out again.

You do get THAT wet, sitting in the front of a Five person log, that ploughs into the water! A tidal wave onto your lap and often sodden trainers!The ride is certainly, one of the best log flumes I've been on it Europe.

Can not wait!It feels already, like the ride has an atmosphere similar to Nemesis. Can't wait to ride this thing!

Coming from someone who works in theatre and does lighting design, I stand by the fact the daylight ruins the whole station. Would it really have cost that much more to have put another wall in and some decent ligting inbetween walls? That way you would still get the ligting beams through the wooden slats, but with no real daylight, they could have some fantastic lighting colours. Way too much daylight in there.On that topic, there was talk about some heavy curtains in the queueline to block the huge amount of daylight from the fastrack door at the bottom of the stairs, but as ever with Thorpe, is was only talk and it will always be too light.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyCbp5N2qJsYes please Busch Gardens, Tampa

No. 'The biggest'. 32 seats Vs the original 4.

Bit more info I found of 'Project Atlantis' HERE

You say 4D drop that is not. Very few have actually seen what B&M's world first take on the old Arrow/S&S 4D will yet look like. You may yourself of course, be totally right. However, those famous initials are being thrown around an awful lot of late.

I remember this very, very well and have some park images of the train somewhere with Mr Rabbit sitting in.The old queueline that was outside, is still in view, hidden and covered by a block of tarmac. The door way was lowered and can still be seen as to how much higher the door way was. A few steps up and the queueline continued inside into a small room. Mainly white and very star trek, silver cattle pens and a 'window' above you looking out into space. Finally, passed the batching point and across a walk way, surrounded with mirrors and into the (at the time) daunting station.. the front of the train slightly tipping into the pitch black tunnel infront.Restraints down and the countdown would begin. Numbers illuminated and flashed above the tunnel infront '5, 4, 3, 2, 1...IGNITION...'The adventure began! Through the long upward stretch of track, flashing lights and neon, into the helix, before eventually passing by again the station, in it's darker blue lighting state.When the ride was over, exit to the left and the covered indoor bridge that was see you exit from the blue building back into the park.I remember when for the first time, I was able to walk through the fire exits (around near Inferno's lift hill) and into Carousel Kingdom, even as a small geek kid, I was excited to see what was once the space station zero ride area. Even now, whilst walking through the arcade, I look around and remember how much I loved those early trips through space. That's why I make sure I ride the fish as a 'grown up' secretly remembering my rides on Space Station Zero!

For anyone having trouble (or lazy) to go through the PDF’s, here are a few of details from the huge application. It’s a very interesting read and covers it all in great detail. I expect very soon now, that we will see an application go in for next years flat ride and maybe, just maybe the new coaster!!It’s worth pointing out that the coaster drawn here, may not be the planned ride at all, it’s to give an impression of the scale that the park are working with. However, with it’s certainly unique first drop, I’d place money on a B&M 4D coaster, hands down.

Who'd have thought! Took 'em long enough, but I totally agree, nothing has been closed all day during any of my trips this year, so hats off to them. Fingers crossed they can shake the reputation now.

I think the indoor section of the ride is fine, infact the first drop is the single best element of the entire ride. What I however find to be the problem is that it reeks of missed opportunity. A swinging (sometimes) UV blade and block where nothing happens and even when it did, was a waste of space. Come on, even that small a space, there could have been a whole load of potential with geat audio , projection just to list a tiny few!I would shudder if Merlin were putting a dark ride in tbh, imagine!

Hope we've all informed GS how good he is at his job? He'd be very happy to read these boards!

God, I remember that same door on the 5th Dimesion "mind the doors..."Looking back, as great as the 5th dimension was, when Terror Tomb opened I was amazed at what an utterly amazing job they did re-theming it.

It really makes me feel old reading this! Those Chessington pics of the train, remind me of a young ride geek Fever, I remember it so well. The Mystic East track can still be easily seen; leaving from Kobra look right and you can clearly see a corridoor of trees running along the back, where the train used to run.Anyone remember the insane queueline walk along the top of the buildings for the runnaway train?I still kick myself at the lack of old photos I took from both Chessington and Thorpe, in these days.