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  1. Ivsetti

    Nearby Development

    It's not about that, it's because any future builds or late night events Thorpe Park makes or host could potentially be rejected on the grounds of noise and being an eyesore by the new residential complex especially as the neighbours around the park are already having an increasingly strained relationship with the park. Just because they're established doesn't grant them any right in anyone's eyes to ignore neighbours concerns to whom Thorpe Park MUST ensure minimal disruption occurs even if they're new neighbours. I for one would be completely against the residential complex as it could cause the island behind the swarm to become obsolete by virtue of being to close to any potential residential development on the old Cemex HQ for any thrill attraction-related construction. Also this planning request was out for a fairly long time (couple of months), why's it only being reported now?
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    Although I'm not sure what purpose it serves guestwise as it usually opens at ~10/11 am anyway so I'm not sure what purpose draining the lake would be except possibly hinting that they're planning on retracking the ride? It seems Thorpe are really trying to become better this season so good on them! I hope they're beginning to get out of the rut they're currently in! Edit: Or potentially hinting the ride is also either a) Only held together right now by elastic bands and string and they don't want it SBNO because 3 major rides SBNO (slammer, Loggers and Colossus) even if not their fault would be extremely shameful for a self-proclaimed "international" park
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    2019 Season

    Having looked at Trip Advisor reviews etc. a clear trend between M£rlin and non-M£rlin parks is present with non-M£rlin parks doing much better in reviews even when things like ride breakdowns occur at both parks. Obviously, I'd like to see Thorpe Park, in particular, to break free of this negative spiral and launch itself up into a positive one (this may take a few years though as there's A LOT that needs sorting out). Merlin itself also needs someone fresh to take the reigns because its current strategy isn't cutting it anymore.
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    Your Thorpe Park

    I'd do slightly more expensive events (similar to FN's) during Summer and Easter and what not to get those numbers up and to soak up some of the increased queues during these periods. I'd spend some money on things that people would share on social media: Roaming Actors and Trafalgar Square type entertainment on the Stealth Plaza and in Angry Birds Land. Replace the Enterprise with a Bertazzon Matterhorn (as thrilling and also just as suitable for young guests and don't have to wait 30 mins to get 0.00001 secs at the completely upright position). Above events will be focused on target market (11-23 y/o thrillseekers, more event focused 21+ y/o's and families with slightly older children). Keep a tidy and clean look of the resort + clean-looking attractions. Spend money identifying causes of ride-breakdowns and how to avoid those. I'd capitalise on the proximity to the airport and London (8+mil residents!!!), be inclined to push towards people using public transport to get to the park and figure out how to get London's and surrounding areas' residents to the park. Close DBGT and sell off the parts or have a good look at it and see what can be done to improve its experience (I.e so that it actually works). Find ways to bring non-thrillseekers to the park (esp. through above events, tame rides etc.) Once my gate figures are up I'd then capitalise on replacing an existing attraction (namely Colossus) to place a new roller coaster (atm a new ride on virgin land isn't what the park needs I feel) and I'd also want to replace Vortex with a KMG Inversion 24 and replace Fabbri Aladdin's Carpet Giant with a Mondial Super Nova. But primarily, at this point in time (2019) I'd be looking at ways to push gate figures up and keep them up particularly focusing on current trends where people are being increasingly frugal with their money so things like events and marrying that with the unique location of a thrill-seekers paradise like Thorpe Park should mean even a fairly lower-cost event done right that can be marketable coupled with the bullet-pointed improvements above should hopefully make people consider coming to Thorpe Park increasing gate figures to a high enough level that a new coaster will have an impact (at the minute I feel people nation-wide are almost forgetting about Thorpe Park especially with the lack of marketing in recent years and I fear a new coaster won't have the impact it could have). If we're going for IP's I'd also look at a Marvel/ DC comics one that ties in with one of the themed areas below (being upbeat and wholesome is what the people want IMO). Attractions wise after increased gate figures I would focus on finding a way to make each themed area distinct from the area next to it and adding a unique "experience". I'd also aim to find ways to link it to an "Island" theme. Themed areas of the park for me are: "Horror": Saw, Samurai, DBGT and TWD:TR etc. area ("Experience": Saw:Alive is good enough at the moment but replacing it soon is probably a good idea) "Lost City": Colossus, Beach, (this area's theming needs work on) (Experience: Area needs sorting out first) "Little America": Stealth, Tidal Wave area (Experience: ?) "Area 51/Other Dystopian Title": The Swarm (Experience: No idea how you'd fit it in but an enclosed Laser Tag arena) "The Jungle": Nemesis, AB Land, Detonator, Rumba Rapids etc. area (Experience: "Zombie Hunt" was a fairly good idea as are the challenge stalls in ABL, replacing IAC with something good) At the moment Thorpe Park doesn't feel like a proper theme park due to clashing theming being incoherent and too close together and this needs work on. Right now it just feels like a mix and match of disjointed theming (horror ride TWD:TR next to the upbeat AB Land?) and feels more like a fairground (at least THEY can get their rides to work though) than a "nationally-recognised" theme park. Also, Merlin is neglecting Thorpe due to their own massive struggles and for me the future doesn't look bright for both Merlin and Thorpe Park.
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    Logger's Leap

    If Thorpe Park are closing Loggers Leap that area could provide amazing near miss scenery with plenty of air time hills for a new water-coaster targeting both thrill-seeking teens but also having a low enough height restriction so families can enjoy the ride: https://www.intaminworldwide.com/project/divertical/ This would bring the water rides count to 4: -Tidal Wave to get super drenched -Storm Surge to get slightly wet -Rumba Rapids to take in the scenery/ waste time -Loggers Leap Replacement combining an Intamin Water Coaster with a vertical lift hill (I.e. a smaller version of Divertical at Mirabilandia - 1.3m height restriction) and a flume ride's meander through scenery Thorpe Park's future investments however should fit in with their target audience which for me are: -Teens and Young Adults -25-30 (arbitary numbers plucked from a hat based on the kind of people I see walking around the park) y/o during events (e.g. FN's) -Families with slightly older children (with families with young children going to closeby CWOA/ Legoland) Rumba Rapids should ideally be made much more thrilling and wetter. Perhaps a consultation with Intamin to update the ride for a modern audience? Or it could be closed and made a new events area or a new flat ride area (when area behind the Swarm's coaster opens new flat rides will be desperately needed).
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    Fright Nights 2019 - General Discussion

    I'm presuming either this means they're expecting a huge surge in guests from somewhere or they want to spread guest numbers out so they don't have a massive concentration of guest numbers over ~1 week or so (last year looking at the queue times even 1 week before Oct half term queue times were at most 30mins dropping to 5 mins during the last hour of the day indicating the park was fairly quiet especially on weekdays). Also begs the question when blue services FN day will be if it's even going to be held this year. I think some of those dates are going to revert back to closed dates.
  7. Ivsetti

    2019 Season

    You forgot to include a not in that.
  8. Ivsetti

    2019 Season

    #ReplaceTheLeap #InvestInCanadaCreek
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    I like how everyone assumes new trains aren't a viable option when they haven't checked the Intamin website: A little further up they also wrote this: I feel so sorry for Intamin and I doubt they'll (want to) make another ride at the park soon of this ride type. Link: https://www.intaminworldwide.com/project/Colossus/ Just want to point out it's a generic description of Multi Inversion Coasters on the website and that it's not specifically describing Colossus. Also interesting to see that the theoretical pph is the highest of all coasters in the park.
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    2019 Season

    Today's attempt at riling up the masses to buy a season pass. Needless to say, certain people weren't impressed at being called "thick". Still, I hope other departments are doing better than the social media team.
  11. New Adventure Island owner right here
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    2019 Season

    Thorpe Park Mania: Thorpe Park: Thorpe Park Mania: It's clearly not the lols, I view it as Thorpe Park taking negative feedback head on and telling guests that their complaints are being worked on. Winter Update series showed them reducing the "tired" look of the resort (which a lot of people complain about here). I also read somewhere about this winter (I think it was a Trip Advisor response) them working on making changes to reduce queue times exiting the car park. That said, it is a weird way to tell guests you're working on their complaints as it doesn't come across as professional as it could have although I think that's because of the image the park try to portray themselves as on social media. I'm guessing improvements will be revealed on opening day in March. Kieran doesn't seem to understand how much rides actually cost. Does anyone know what the fifth problem was?
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    2019 Season

    2nd best thing said on TPM 2019 after Wubbybubby's. Varney wants to manage Merlin as if it were a small company. Problem: You've got to know everyone and everything in the daily operation of your small company. You can't do that with a large company. Effectively, you get the above problem with each sub brand's management focusing on a strategy from Merlin higher-ups that may not necessarily work for that particular sub-brand. In terms of profits, Thorpe DO focus on investing in attractions but due to a lack of clear direction - public want more family attractions but Thorpe want to be a thrill-seekers paradise which is a smaller section of the UK market - it's often just throwing money down the drain for additions that a few years later become obsolete like Angry Birds Land. I still like the chocolate taste!
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    'I'm a Celebrity' Maze

    Thorpe Park have supposedly closed IAC without warning. They're also apparently recruiting actors hinting about special "acting" for the 2019 Birthday Celebration season. They've been keeping the IAC building a secret during the Winter Construction updates but I doubt it'll be a SBNO thing. Currently, the Rangers don't have a lot of places they could be situated at. Catch my drift? Edit: I should probably finish watching each JS video before I write things on here because he already stole my ideas
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    2019 Season

    Going to break my self-imposed temporary post ban to just comment on this one. The main reason Cadbury does well is that their product is actually good and we associate Cadbury = nice choccies (eating a creme egg whilst I type this lol). Also, you get a consistent product. The problem with actively associating Merlin with any attraction to the GP (Nick Varney has often stated this is something he doesn't want to do) is that if a member of said GP has a bad day at say Thorpe Park and they see "Merlin" at the resort and then they see "London Dungeons" also associated with Merlin on an advert, take a guess who're going to expect a disappointing day at the London Dungeons in line with their disappointing day at Thorpe Park and subsequently not want to go to the LDs? I mean, we enthusiasts already make the connection Merlin = M£rlin, if the GP do it that would harm business significantly. Effectively, not doing your proposed marketing scheme means a bad experience at one Merlin attraction doesn't affect a person's decision to go to another Merlin owned attraction. Also, not all Merlin attractions are the same quality which the GP will catch on to rendering your proposed marketing scheme void in terms of getting the GP to go to more Merlin attractions.
  16. Despite being one of the most well-known theme parks to the UK GP and one of the likeliest theme parks (or "resort") in the UK to become an international player nearly every single thread contains hundreds and hundreds of complaints about Thorpe Park ranging from the big things such as its visual appearance all the way down to the restraints they use on their rides. In fact, it seems like Thorpe Park is doing nothing right! In preparation for the 2019 season, I've made a thread where you can list all your current, future and past problems and complaints about Thorpe Park in one easy to find thread. Maybe if someone senior at TP is reading this they can actually start doing something about the more common problems guests have. To avoid a completely depressing read, for every negative comment you write, please try to write a positive about Thorpe Park to go with it. I'll start: I think Thorpe Park looks too dirty and run down, downtime is the expectation at Thorpe Park when it should be the exception (see HPWW) & events' quality is being reduced year on year (compare Tulley's to FN 2018) Positives: Queues'll get smaller when fewer people turn up in the next few years.
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    Merlin Entertainments

    Bar the Legoland parks all the "standalone" Merlin theme parks have either had yearly visitors stay roughly the same or decrease. Merlin's money grabbing tactics and "playing the victim" card about how they can only do so much when they run their attractions have to stop. I'm sure they're aware of the constant low feedback their parks get and really this needs addressing. It's simply not right for a company that owns some of the biggest parks in their respective countries to have startlingly low increases or even decreases in attendance across the board for all their parks. https://queue-times.com/parks/1/attendances (slight increase, 2018 data not yet released so Wickerman's effect on attendance isn't yet known) https://queue-times.com/parks/3/attendances (CWOA had a small 20K increase between 2016 to 2017, 2018's Tiger Rock's effect not yet known) https://queue-times.com/parks/12/attendances (decrease at Heide Park) https://queue-times.com/parks/2/attendances (Thorpe Park, stayed roughly the same since 2015 Smiler crash, 2018 can be presumed to be roughly the same/ slightly lower) https://queue-times.com/parks/12/attendances (Gardaland had a whopping 280,000 decrease in attendance between 2016 to 2017, 2018 can be presumed to be much lower although that may be to economic conditions, I don't follow the Italian news) Compared to other parks which saw increases in their attendance (you can look up attendances here: https://queue-times.com/parks - click on the park and click "Historical Attendance Data"), the blame can't be put down to the market conditions. The problem stems from customers at Merlin parks echoing the same concerns and problems that we as enthusiasts have - just look at the comments section of any of their posts on social media or their Trip Advisor reviews for any of their parks. As this is a trend across the board the blame can't be put down to lack of new attractions or one particular park's terrible management. It's clearly a company issue that stems from neglecting one of the most fundamental principles of the sector they're in: Magical days out. That said, in 2012 Disneyland Paris's attendance was over 12 million a year. Now it's 9.6 mil a year. However, 2016 to 2017 still saw an increase in numbers though. I admit attendance growth in a short span of time like 3 years-ish isn't a measure of a park's success nor is the above data potentially accurate. However, decreases in attendance across all your parks indicate it isn't a market problem but more a company problem and decreases in attendance could potentially get so low that the park may be forced to shut, something most of us on this forum do not want to happen. Once these basic guest complaints are addressed will new attractions increase attendance as they should (your AT Dungeons for example). I thank you all for reading my last post until new planning permissions are released by Thorpe Park.
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    2019 Season

    Well they do have certain family areas like Canada Creek and Angry Birds Street and I suppose it would be a good way to improve guest experience especially for shorter children. I think it's another way to increase dwindling numbers by getting those reviews up using simple but effective ways to improve guest satisfaction which I have personally applaud them for doing so. It works at Disney, it's bound to work here! It's not the only thing they've done to help increase reviews: -Responding to "tiredness" looks of the Island by jetwashing Saw, relaying grass on Stealth, planting trees, other things they probably haven't revealed, fixing certain theming effects on rides both this year and last year (mist on Inferno, rotating blades on Saw, fire effects on The Swarm) -Increasing reliability of rides: New lift chain on NI and I presume other behind the scenes stuff they won't share -Increasing guest satisfaction: By not being miserable people (bar the baggage hold staff) -Apparently, have roaming actors now for 2019: Would be an easy way to turn an average day out into an above average day out with some simple shows/ guest interaction How did we all miss this!!! (obviously part of Thorpe Park's birthday celebrations) :
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    2019 Season

    Weren't those stands there during Love Island Lates?
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    Jobs at Thorpe Park

    Thorpe Park are currently hiring rides hosts (with a slim chance of being promoted to "operator")! https://merlin.csod.com/ux/ats/careersite/4/home/requisition/1499?c=merlin Main description (perks are shown on the site and include free entry) for future reference: "This is truly a hands-on role. You’ll work in a designated area of the park to assist guests on and off rides, manage queue lines and you may even find yourself operating some of our rides, all whilst driving exceptional guest interaction. As you’d expect in a theme park, there are high company standards to maintain in regards to ride area cleanliness and health and safety, so an eye for detail and perseverance to upkeep the highest standards is key!"
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    Park Operations

    https://www.theguardian.com/money/2019/jan/12/rollercoaster-ride-day-at-thorpe-park-ends-with-lost-bag-and-car-theft Another example of superior Thorpe Park customer service.
  22. Ivsetti

    2019 Season

    And Saw the Ride's birthday
  23. Credit (click on the link at the bottom, this is not my work)
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    Hocus Pocus Hall

    Primarily that article shows 2 main problems we all have with Merlin: 1) Forgetting about turning a GOOD day out to a GREAT day out and 2) Turning their parks into what is essentially a shopping centre of IPs with hundreds of irrelevant logos and irrelevant q-line TV ads to get your attention whilst in the park totally ruining any sense of escapism. Coupled with the overpriced non-ticket items such as food, pictures and items in the shop it leaves people leaving with a slightly bitter taste in their mouth (especially when they get to the queue to leave if they came by car). I for one am not against IP's - you don't spend thousands of hours to create high-quality content only for a small number of people to turn up - creating IPs brings in fans of that IP which is obviously good but you should really avoid using too many of them or at least be attempting to spread them out. You should also trust that people will turn up without needing an IP (I.e. making something unique like Fright Nights - it took around a decade but now it's one of the best in the country and gives a reason to visit every year). We go to attractions to escape reality a bit and things like flaking and old paint work, rides with excessive downtime or not open at all (unless for a good reason), rude and unhelpful staff (I rarely encounter this at Merlin attractions), overpriced items, trash everywhere, queues to enter and leave ruin that magic. Merlin, if they are going to be using IPs, should remember to have attractions, scenery and events that aren't IP related to off-set the IP dependent attractions which should help reduce the problem 2 in my first paragraph (think Europa Park or Disney Land level of "escape" - you are meant to be the best in the country after all). Too many IPs, however, are just laughable and counteract your aim of creating magical days out - cBeebies land at Alton Towers was a pointless IP and could have been implemented by potentially making the area themed to one of your own "inventions" and potentially had just as high an ROI especially in the long term whilst having that magic "escapism" factor increase (I say "potentially" as of course it hasn't happened). We see cBeebies every day, we DON'T go Alton Towers everyday. If we had an amazing time at Alton Towers' own unique themed bundle of attractions we're more likely to return there as we can't get that experience anywhere else (something Disney capitalise on hugely as do the other theme parks in Europe - after all we're not returning when there's little difference every year or so for no reason) whereas for cBeebies we could just go to any of the other events they put on or just switch on the telly. Another reason this is a problem: The GP will see and think "cBeebies Land" adverts and think "oh, another cash-grabbing attraction to pull our children in". They see "Alton Towers' New Children's Land" or whatever they want to call it and it's more "hm, sounds interesting". It won't have an initial massive return in terms of visitors but it will strengthen the attractions on offer which is a very easy way to get people to return the following year/ later in the year which should bring others' in through sustained marketing and positive reviews - see FN's above. Fixing the above problems should also help improve customer experience by regaining some of that magic Merlin pride themselves on. Spending time highlighting what you could do/change/add to increase the "magic" factor in your parks = better reviews = easy way of bowling people over to visit you over a competitor. Merlin's current growth strategy of solely relying on external IPs is fundamentally flawed as it results in problem 2 above which is definitely not a place people want to be as it just screams as "cash-grabbing" (ads in a rollercoaster queue line for example - WTH Merlin?!?! - at least make them somewhat relevant to the theme of the ride). Having a mix of IPs to initially boost the numbers as well as unique attractions that offer great entertainment value (rollercoasters, Hocus Pocus Hall, FN's for example if they're done well and haven't been clearly "cost-cutted") is important to ensure visitors attend the following year. For cBeebies land this could have been done by having "New Characters" and having a mix of the IP's shows with in-house designed themed attractions. Please read my signature and I hope I've struck a chord with some members on this forum and if so I hope Merlin's higher ups listen or at least investigate for the sake of Merlin but more importantly for the sake of Thorpe Park. (I'm sorry for the post length, future posts will be much much shorter).
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    Next Roller Coaster

    That's what I thought so too but a seemingly increasing minority seem to think something's going to happen to the Loggers Leap area instead. (link: http://forum.towerstimes.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=41878&start=200 - note the posters in that forum who believe this extremely unlikely theory have a VERY low-post-count and can therefore be deemed unreliable)