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I'm very happy with the purchase as its saved a good park that needed help as they have had some real struggles in the last few years. From what I gather everyone is sceptical as they don't have the greatest track record for investment so only time will tell but hopefully this will mean some investment in rides is heading the parks way, they really need something new and to start replacing all the attractions that have been removed over the last few years having removed Excalibur and pirate adventure and g-storm being one of the parks only thrill offerings investment is sorely needed.
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Top 10 Parks: Tokyo Disney Sea Island of Adventure Fuji Q Highland Hollywood Studios Animal Kingdom Tokyo Disney Land Epcot Sea World Orlando Disney Land Paris Black Pool Pleasure Beach Top 10 Coasters: Hagrids Coaster Expedition Everest Ejekna Dodoponda Hulk Space Mountain Hyperspace Thunder Mountain The Big One Mako Saw The ride Top 10 Rides: Monsters Inc (Tokyo version, duh) Journey to the Center of the Earth Indiana Jones and the temple of the crystal skull Tower of Terror Soarin Forbidden Journey Escape from Gringotts Jurassic Park Haunted Mansion Spiderman Adventures
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It would be a shame to see this ride go its a real asset to the park and something the UK park industry really lacks in two aspects is water rides and immersive dark rides, I could understand from a financial point of view but having ridden it a few years back it was a highlight of the park for me and great ride.
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Old Town: Replace loggers leap with GCI woodie Timber- Starts of in the station as a wood mill work shop, exits the station into a banked turn drop passing a falling tree effect with TIMBER audio, climbs a 120ft hill half way up enters a wooden hut with sawing sounds and a saw blade at the exit the riders then u-turn into a banked drop of 120ft with head chopper effect of going through hill structure, into a large banked turn above rocky express, into a 80ft speed hill then a 60ft speed hill into a ground level banked turn to a tunnel exiting to a 45ft hill with head chopper of the lift hill structure to turn around and s-bend through the lift hill structure with head choppers, and turn to the side with the drop into a tunnel break run passing a large painted loggers leap logo with are you brave enough to face the loggers leap the ride then turns and exits the tunnel to climb a 60ft lift hill to perform the same classic drop of loggers leap into a water spout splash down and then returns to the station. Buzzsaw- Large kmg booster flat ride is also added on land side where the drop used to be themed to wood chopping Medieval Realm/Island behind swam: Intamin vertical drop and launch coaster Gallows- Queue line through castle dungeon leading up stairs to throne room loading station Exits the station to a platform which rotates to face the loaded riders and then vertically drops 35ft in front of them exits the platform to see medieval punishment devices and large black hood in front of exit reveals eyes "I've got a new punishment for you" the ride then launches into an inverted top hat over a large blood spatter painted on the ground and exits into a speed hill and then banked turn and then a corkscrew and then climbing into the tower of the castle the door then closes behind the riders for complete darkness and the ride then vertically drops 35ft again and exits the platform for the train then returns to the station. The land also features medieval style rotisserie and bakery as well as a blacksmith gift shop The beach: converted to house a top spin, because we all love a top spin ;) Thorpe Shark Hotel: Removed once the new hotel opens Icarus- A sky hawk is placed on the land themed to old world wooden airplanes Voyeur- A full 360 degrease pirate ship also opens on the land themed to an old Grecian sea boat
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Outside of the UK: What an incredible time for the industry worldwide with the opening of the incredible Shanghai Disneyland with its grand castle and tron coaster and the amazing POTC, Disney has had an incredible decade as Mark9 said with Pandora and Galaxys Edge and Toy Story Land! Universal started of strong with Harry Potter, dipped considerably with the overuse of screen based rides like Kong and FF, then ended the decade epicly with Hagrids coaster, having ridden that coaster I have to say its an amazing addition, brilliant mix of coaster and story telling! On from 2020: I'm so excited for the Nintendo lands coming worldwide and the opening of a 3rd theme park for Universal on the way aswell as the currently constructing Jurassic roller coaster Beauty and the beast land at Tokyo Disney aswell as Frozen, Peter Pan and Tangled lands for DisneySea, Marvel campus coming to DCA, Guardians of the Galaxy and Mary Poppins ride for Epcot! What an amazing new decade its going to be!
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Looking Back the 2010's UK: The good: I can't speak from experience sadly but from what I see and hear about Icon and Wickerman they and the swarm seem to be the only good things to come out of the 2010s to the UK. The Bad: We had the smiler incident that caused shockwaves across all of UK theme parks and then we had the incident on Drayton Manors rapids that has seen it closed ever since with The flume and Loggers leap being closed it wasn't a good decade for water rides. DBGT, whats left to say that's not already been said? I can see it being removed or left SBNO anytime now, while it was admirable to try something new surely when testing they could see what a misfire this "ride" was!? It seems like the UK theme park industry as a whole has just given up, a lack of investment and upkeep has riddled this decade and it unfortunately does not look set to change with none of the major players announcing anything of note. Drayton Manor seems to have a rough decade with ride closures and removals and two deaths and no investments of note, I can see the park folding if something doesn't improve. Thorpe Park just seem intent on latching onto IP's now for rides/lands that just aren't worth it. The walking dead ride is just awful why re-theme a family coaster to a dying horror IP?! Imagine what they could have done if they created a new indoor dark ride/coaster for it instead! The park seriously needs investment, I can see with DBGT costing so much and being such a colossal failure that the funding has probably been stripped away for now, but without the the attendance will continue to drop. 2020's: I hope this "UK Disneyland Park" gets of the ground and gets opens sometime this decade and I pray it gives the UK theme park industry a much needed kick up the ass to up their game when it comes to rides, parks in Europe and worldwide are continuing to grow and improve but our parks seem to be on a spiraling into decline.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx4lLqLHgDw Has anyone seen this construction update on the beauty and the beast ride and land coming to Tokyo Disneyland? I'm super excited for this, the animatronics look like they've pulled the characters from the original film! Excited for the baymax version of alien saucers to it sounds like a cute ride and all the work starting on New Fantasyland in Tokyo Disney sea! Finally a Peter land, Tangled land and a Frozen land!
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I obviously mean whilst I'm out there 🙄 if the flights were £50 I would go to Japan everyday but sadly they are not, I'd much rather save for my trips and go to better theme parks out there than pay the same price for a below average one
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They really need to do something the last time I visited was 2016 and that was a free visit due to complaining about Derren's Browns ride being closed the first time all day and then we return and go on it and its basically a VR experience I could have had at home with my friends tickling my legs, anyway you get the gist. The UK industry as a whole needs to step up because the worldwide and European parks are knocking it out of the park and here in the UK we can't even seem to get to first base! After going to theme parks worldwide I have no desire to return to Thorpe Park and infact if a friend suggests it I resent the notion! When I could go to Tokyo Disney Sea for the day for £50 why would I pay near enough that for somewhere as sub par as Thorpe Park.
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I hope once the CCTV has been fully installed and the training on water rescues the ride will re-open in the new year, it's a horrible tragedy but personally the children should not have been unaccompanied by an adult from the school even if one child did not want to go on the ride, otherwise she likely wouldn't have ignored the rules and stood up.
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Firstly replace Angry birds IP with Steven Universe IP and re-theme the area accordingly and a 4D Steven Universe show giving a family friendly for all ages light and fun area The jungle receives an actual Jungle themed ride! :O with Rumba Rapids refurbished the Turntables is housed inside a large tree with wire lights for overgrown roots in the tree, a new effect before the tunnel a lower bank has been dug out with Crocodile figurines sitting by the waters edges there jaws open and water sprays out, The tunnel has been re-themed to rocky facade and the land area opened up with hippo figurines going round in a circle creating a whirlpool, back outside before the large area hunter and a tribe man shoot at each other with water blow pipe and gun the large viewing area left as is, the shower (thats never used) is removed and a tank is put in its place and a hippo head pops out of the tank to surprise and spurt the riders. Derren Browns **** show is CANCELLED and the ride building is completely overhauled and re-themed to Zombies on the underground and thus with TWD Ride creating a new area Zombie Zone, the attraction is now paid for exeprience, VR component is removed and the system updated, a pre-show details your escape to the trains shed and into the underground to escape over run London, projections on windows of flying through stations with zombies and tunnel zombies making a bumpy ride, then stopping in a station where the ride door at the end has a video screen showing the next part of the attraction where the train doors open and zombie actors flood the carriage attacking the riders. The train doors then open and an actor fends of a zombie urging them to run and escape to another train they've got working, then to the same area but the projection is of zombies coming up the tunnel and a zombie from behind chases you to the next train, on the next train is when the windows are actually projection canvases and going through underground tunnels again with zombies and then stops in a station and the canvases are removed to reveal zombies who reach through the window holes and then the door opens and they attack the riders which is recorded and played to the next group! The lights go out and the zombies leave and then turn on again, you exit and have a zombified photo from booth and can also buy the recording of the train Old Town RETURN LOGGERS LEAP and a flat ride to replace Slammer
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Large thrill investment On the island behind swarm a trackless dark ride opens Rebellion- After the attack the swarm launched on London the army are recruiting you to join in the fight back to reclaim London, a shooting based trackless dark ride Show house building is a huge crashed spaceship with outdoors queue line with videos and posters recruiting you to fight back against the swarm The ride vehicles travel along in pitch black with sirens going off and a door opens to thunder and rain from ceiling the ride vehicles stop as platform raises 40ft whilst rotating The ride then moves again shooting at the swarm flying overhead, a scene on the left shows soldiers shooting at the swarm then on the right the swarm is suddenly heading towards you Turning round a right bend passing the swarm crashing through a skyscraper, coming down a 30ft hill with the swarm flying overhead, the swarm then drops a tank on the left scene, turning round a right bend into a large scene of chaos with collapsing buildings, tanks and soldiers in shoot out with several swarms and an explosion causes a tank to roll towards you, the ride then meanders right dropping 20ft with swarms either side coming towards you and climbing 10ft again then entering the mouth of a huge swarm and shooting at the large tonsils rotating slightly and sprayed with water then head backwards out of the mouth, turning to pass an area of dead swarms and soldiers celebrating as you return to station turning the corner a swarm then surprise attacks you. Medium Family fun investment On the space where Loggers leap resided a replacement log flume opens just not passing through water, themed around a dopey family of rednecks with silly animatronics like two redneck kids seesawing a saw through a piece of wood, drinking rednecks scene with stumbling dancing, falling over, passed out, drilling a tree for sap that leaks and spurts at riders, an area of wooden animal carvings that spurt water, has the same iconic drop in the same place just slightly different layout so doesn't pass over the water. Small investment Slammer is replaced with a turbo fabbri giant flat ride
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This is the kind of ride I was expecting back when it was announced I thought finally a high level themed indoor dark ride for a UK park, something we could be proud of! Instead we end up with VR headsets (which you could just do at home) and an ok acting/experience scene in the middle (on opening) and at the end. It's so lackluster that it beggars belief they hyped it up so much, as you said all they have to do is look at what others parks around the world are offering and see that just slapping on a VR head set and have some attendants tickle your legs does not make a theme park worthy experience. I mean something with screens I would expect with hopefully some animatronics would have been amazing but alas it wasn't to be...
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Hellevator: Indoor tower dark ride Set inside an 100ft Asylum building covered in hippie-esque rainbow patterns, flowers and peace signs etc on the island behind swarm Entering through the lobby which is patterned and lasers and subliminal videos of "therapy" on screens, station is the induction hall Ride travels backwards past cells with large subliminal projections being shown to mannequins in chairs, with hear gear to force eyes open Ride then locks into the tower and tilts up to face the ceiling where a hanging body is illuminated and launches up 80ft towards body when huge bloody laughing face is illuminated on the ceiling around it The ride then goes to pitch black with sound effects of laughter and creaking and drops 70ft and tilts front facing to see a man being given electric shock therapy by a mad doctor and the ride then launches up and down the tower passing Floor 1 - pair of hands shaking bars with huge scary face painted behind Floor 2 - huge hypnotic red spiral and chanting Floor 3 - red demonic eyes and roars Floor 4 - Large cell door where huge arm reaches out of cut out Stopping at the top floor with a screen showing man in straight jacket rocking in corner screen flickers and blinks as suddenly full screen face and goes pitch black ride tilts to the ground illuminating a demonic face painted on floor with the ride dropping 70ft going up and down with flashing lights till the ride returns to the floor and tilts to normal and returns to the station The Canteen- A themed restaurant experience where you are served by "inmates" is also located in the building
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Sadly I think the key thing in their decline was DBGT, they created such a hype for something that is pretty much a sit down VR experience you could get at home with some Halloween maze like acting thrown in the middle to break it up a bit (I haven't experienced the new version, so I assume its similar but better themed for the ending) They threw alot of money into a project that just simply didn't return the profit or the hype for the park even after an essential do over attempt. Then there's the fact old town has been a dormant area for years now with Loggers left SBNO for such a long time with no actual word and mixed social media messages angered alot of enthusiasts because its such an iconic ride (at least they had the decency to admit Slammer wasn't coming back) an area that now houses a couple of kids rides in whats marketed as a thrill park falls flat They then choose a sinking ship of an IP in the walking dead that's been ravaged by bad reviews, much of the main cast being lost/going and fast dropping viewing figures to overlay a ride that had already actually been given a new lease of life and was making progress and adding another dark and depressing theme to a dark and depressing park tbh. These IP events like love island lates and walking dead etc scream of latching onto something in desperation. Part of what has made our theme parks great in the past is creating unique immersive environments for rides that aren't bogged down by and IP and it feels like we are losing that, rather than being imaginative and daring the park seems to be latching onto BLANK the ride just to create buzz which evidently is only fleeting. I wouldn't mind if we got something to the quality of Harry Potter World etc (I KNOW I'M DREAMING HERE) but a walking dead re-theme that involves dark corridors a video and a couple of screens on the ride falls incredibly flat imho. What they really need is a line of strong new additions to really draw people back to the park and stop disregarding unique immersive themes for IP's for a quick fix that obviously isn't lasting. I fear that if they don't announce something soon the park is just going to fall of the map, the UK industry as a whole tbh really needs a kick up the ass right now, look at Eftling for example going from strength to strength great new additions and feedback essentially going head to head with DLP if our parks actually tried to compete with the better offerings out there like you see at Florida with Disney and Universal our theme park industry would improve vastly but being all owned by one company there sadly really isn't any competition that's why I pray this London Resort eventually happens and they actually start competing so they put some effort again into their offerings.
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Old Town wooden coaster Ambush: Starts of in the old saw mill at 50ft climbs a 80ft lifthill to reach 130ft turn back round and then drops 130ft into w steep banked turn against the saw mill that passes a metal mesh viewing area The ride then climbs an enclosed hill of 80ft with chainsaw sounds with spinning saw blades hanging from ceiling as you exit drop tunnel the ride then performs a double helix around the a remake of the loggers totem pole but larger with chanting sounds played Heading back on itself the ride then climbs a large 60ft hill and as tribute performs the loggers style drop then meandering around behind the old mill under bridges to enter the mill used as headchopper effects The ride then travels along side the lift hill performing a series of large bunny hops under and over the queue line bridges for the ride before making another steep banked turn through the woodwork for headchop effect The track then tilts 45 degrease left then right passing a large reaching bear figurine and the right side burned/cut trees and a deer nuzzling a dead deer and then climbs a lift hill that turns into the old mill. Slammer is replaced with a sky fly themed around old american planes to fit with the old town area theme and give another more family friendly thrill ride
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It saddens me to but sadly there's been no thrill investments for a long time so the park has been really limiting its audience with all the latest additions being (formerly) ben 10 coaster and Thomas attractions, I have fond memories of visiting the park but it's offering just isn't there anymore, pirates was a great ride such a shame to think it's there just rotting, sad to see G-force go even though it was a maintenance pain and the sad situation with the rapids also happening its not looking very good for the park. I think your so right that unfortunately they just don't seem to have the money for the new thrill attraction they desperately need, it's a shame because we could really do with some actual competition to Merlin with it only being BPB or Merlin parks.
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2020: Loggers leap is replaced with an Intamin water coaster that simulates the former rides layout an indoor drop but with a banked turn and large saw cutter near miss and splash down, a helix drop surrounding a native American totem similair to before and splash down and meandering around to a replica of loggers former double dip drop and returns to the station to make it more appealing in colder weather free waterproof macks are on offer as long as they are returned A new flat ride replaces slammer and this ride now gives Canada creek more appeal and appeases the loss of Loggers Leap with the princess Diana Memorial plaque remaining 2021: Rumba rapids is rethemed god knows it needs an update and general upkeep needs to be the priority parkwide 2022: A new coaster and flat ride to open on the island behind swarm giving the park a much needed buzz
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I totally agree with you, this was my first Disney Park and its beauty just amazed though before I had only been to the likes of Merlin Parks, since then I haven't been bothered to return to a Merlin park because the attention to detail is next level! I'm so excited for all their expansion plans, soaring next year, Tangled land, Peter Pan Land, Frozen Land. I've also experienced Tokyo Disneyland and I must say you can tell its different because they just put so much into everything I'm so excited for the beauty and the beast ride coming to Tokyo Disneyland the animatronics look like they are pulled from the film!
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Get loggers leap opened or a replacement Mack log flume replica ASAP Yin/Yang- New dueling launch coasters The answer to the family vs thrilling dilemma the park seems to have also a kind of little tribute to past rides with the mascots animals being used on family ride and witches being the theme of the thrilling ride Yin- Darkness thrilling coaster black track Station is a rock facade exits through a waterfall tracks are side by side launches upwards into a zero g roll through the top of the yin/yang facade track then turns left into a downward banked turn into a loop with skeletons on the ground in a pentagram, passing through the rock facade into an airtime hill dropping down and turning round into the rock facade, into a large double helix with a trio of witches sacrificing someone for a curse, the ride then stops facing two figures either side of the track with hair covering their faces they reveal their scary screaming faces and the ride launches into a 120 ft with a third witch figurine at the top vertical track that rolls back through the rock face into an air time hill and performing a large banked turn at the top a break run halts the ride and turns on a platform to pass through a pentagram on the rock facade back into the station. Yang- Light family coaster white track Station is a light pagoda exits through smoke tracks are side by side launches into a bunny hop through the yin/yang facade track then turns right into a banked turn passing cheeky monkey statues that spurt water, the ride then air time hills into the mouth of a dragon which nostrils spurt flames, dropping down into a bunny hop and banked turn upwards to exit the tunnel passing a giraffe looking down on you, into a large banked s-bend passing a lion on a rock roaring, travelling along a hippos head that spurts water from a pond, performing a double helix around a rabbit in a garden with a pond with frogs water spurting and the ride then returns to the station.
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Personally the main points of contention for me are, Complete Overhaul of Rumba rapids so it actually has some theming and isn't boring. TLC for Colossus which is severely needed Loggers Leap the ride either needs to be fixed up and reinstated or replaced with a new log flume! Slammer if possible repair it if not it needs to be removed and replaced I would personally love them to get rid of storm surge as its just such an eye sore! Stop all these stupid Love Island and Walking dead events this is Thorpe Park not a Z listers version of Universal Studios
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Slammer and Loggers Leap for me are sorely missed from the parks line up. They were two of the must rides for me when visiting.
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Didn't read the talk of article but the talk of saving sea life centres from decline is amusing since the theme parks have all declined IMO under Merlin. There approach centre's on short lived fad brands and the latest technology as stated, Thorpe Park being a prime example DBGT, the walking dead the ride and Love Island lates (REALLY!) rather than focusing on fad rubbishy events and the latest technology why not stick with the tried and tested and general upkeep to provide a better experience for customers. I haven't been to a Merlin theme park for 3 years now and I really don't feel like I've missed out on anything at all, I'd much rather save my money and go a theme park elsewhere in the world or blackpool pleasure beach where the industry is competitive and the rides and parks are of much better quality and upkeep IMO. I totally agree on the prices not being warranted for just over £50 I went to Tokyo Disneyland and that is far superior to any Merlin price, asking the same price as that feels like day light robbery and all the bad reviews show many feel the same.
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All the feedback ive seen on facebook is negative everyone saying what on earth does is have to do with a theme park and that it makes the park trashy and I totally agree if this is the route they are going I'm glad I haven't visited the park in years.
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Ive recently visited and it waa AMAZING there absolutely loved it and was lucky enough to have great views of mt fuji for most of the day. Yes they sell fast passes we went to a ticket booth there each ¥1000 for the roller coaster and you enter through prioty pass lines some are kind of like exits some randomly join up at a later point in the general queue. I would highly recommend the fast passes and buy them as soon as possible they sell out quick because we didnt buy them up earlier we missed out on takabisha due to not buying fast passes earlier. I agree the operations are slow we waited 45 minutes for the rapids! And longer for roller coasters. The merchandise is great and the rides are just immense, makes me wish the UK theme parks would step up there game.