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Goudrix isn't even the worst Vekoma in Paris (Space Mountain takes that honour), or Europe, let alone the entire World...

Nope, it's our old friends Zamperla who are to blame for the second least favourite steel coaster in the entire world (according to Mitch Hawker polls), beaten only by Goudrix (which isn't as bad as it's made out to be really)...

Word of mouth is a big factor, hence why a failed gimmick like Swarm (it was advertised as an intense gimmick, a la Thirteen, and we all remember how that turned out, even if a fair few of us these days actually like Thirteen) hasn't had a decent reception... So looking at it, it's all about how the ride is presented by the park through both real-life and promotions and whether or not people's perceptions agree with the actual ride experience... If the ride had ended parallel to the intense connotations given by the theme and adverts, then it would probably be loved, but as the Wing-Riders are all about the experience rather than intensity (based on some reports off Gatekeeper, this theme is a constant), it didn't match up so wasn't deemed 'good'... Whilst Saw, Stealth and Colossus are pretty much clear what to expect from the ride, and do actual run parallel to these expectations (Saw runs like a death-trap, Stealth and Colossus are Ronseal rides), and are hence more successful... So really, it's all about whether or not the gimmick fits into the ride as a whole and how the park presents it... But I'd much rather see a ride that doesn't rely on such a gimmick and just be damn good and then have that news spread through word of mouth, I dislike how every new thing in the UK has to have a gimmick or be unique or have an IP attached to them and results in a rather poorly thought out ride, it's just a pet annoyance...

So the gimmick hasn't made an improvement? More than likely because the gimmick was done late, as a tacked on and poorly implemented system that hasn't been that well received as a result... Swarm had an issue with not being 'intense' enough in the public eye, especially sitting between Saw and Stealth (and to a degree, Colossus)... Although it's still arguable on the other hand whether or not there were external aspects affecting the drop in attendances... Public view certainly is based upon height and inversions = intensity... It's disappointing...

Wouldn't say a Maurer Sohne one could be considered a 'classic'...

Here's a rendered POV with a few extra features not seen before... Mack

You know what's really bad? I'll be riding two of these things this year at the current time... And Baco... I might as well just give up on coasters at this rate...

It is perfectly possible to challenge AND change public perception... Sometimes (especially if Thorpe aren't doing as well as is said), it's best to take a risk on something, which in this case (rather stupidly but that's the perception) would be for any of the parks to build a solid, fun and re-rideable coaster that doesn't actually require a gimmick to become well known... I can but dream...

No doubt would be built by Intamin and therefore actually not be that good though... Here's a strange idea, let's just build a solid, non-record breaking ride that just makes everyone happy... Let's just build a Wodan for once...

For it's target audience yes, it is thrilling... More thrilling than X, that's for certain...

Not sure that those riders are having 'fun'...

If it's on RCDB then it counts... [/end thread]

That's... Arguable... Especially considering since Rameses only really Rattlesnake, Land of the Dragons and Wild Asia have been the major developments park wise...

*cough*Swarm*cough*... EDIT - Also, "you're", what sort of example of spelling and grammar is that from the owner?

No, it doesn't NEED to be a RMC hybrid to be defined as 'good'... That's just an unfair statement to make considering there is a reasonable amount of perfectly good (and great, and amazing) actual wooden coasters out there that have been around for years without being a hybrid or having inversions...

Bugger, I forgot this thing has one of them spiral push lifts... Everything about this ride just screams "I'M GONNA BE TURDIO!"...

I'd hope not, Intamin Woodies are vastly over-rated... GCI please...

It doesn't need my help...

This year being the exception of course... I don't really know a time where Towers had something akin to Slammer's downtime... Besides, if that comment isn't the kiss of death on Thorpe, I don't know what is...

What you get when you build rides in the EXTREMELY hot Californian sun...

Oblivion died a week or two back, unsurprisingly as they had to wait for a new part, the focus was on Smiler being fixed up... It's been down ever since...

Not really, cos of the way Chessie works it's seasonals, I doubt there will be many returners from last year returning from whence they came... And there's always a air few newbies for Summer anyways... So I wouldn't hold breath for decent staff appearing...

+1 for loving the "Go ride Storm Surge" space

Banned for being inexperienced...

So apparently all you need to take down a ride are some ladders and blocks of wood? My degree taught me nothing...