Fred
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Again towers suffers from the middle of nowhere effect.
When they used to be open until 7pm in the summer, apart from literally the last week the place would be completely deserted by 5pm.
Even the 6pms over May Half Term the park was empty by 6.40 on a couple of those days which suggests people are not making use of the full opening times.
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Nah what I meant is those figures are nowhere near accurate.
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Maybe it's shy and needs encouragement, rather than angry cyberbullying you've all been giving it on here.
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I guess it belongs here but looks like Thorpe did rather well last year for attendance figures. They had a rise of 11.1% bringing their numbers to 2 million. Alton didn't do so well despite the smiler they only rose by 4.2%.
Pinch of salt on those figures. Real massive pinch of salt.
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There's a solution - ensure it can never drain into the rivers (it's a pump drain, so break it?)
If you need to pump it out, use the vehicles like they did beforehand.. though you can remove dye by chlorinating the water and then counterbalancing it afterwards (and if it can't drain into the rivers it wont matter about high concentrations of chlorine either).
That'd be quite a cheap way of doing things (compared to pumping out and taking to a storage site or whatever). However you'd need someone who wants to accept that risk or just leave it as it is.
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The thing that Reserve and Ride would work really well for.. are attractions with ridiculously low throughputs which stay roughly the same.
Scare mazes.
That'd be nice, instead of having to wait 3hrs in a non-moving queue. I'd much rather queue 3hrs for a coaster as you're usually moving still.
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I'd take that report with a bucket of salt as it's never accurate.
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Don't know why they still bother splitting queues. Run them like a front row queue in the station like they managed beforehand.
There's still nothing stopping you joining the backwards queue, getting a ticket, pocketing the ticket and going forwards.
Surely they get complaints about this, but then again thorpe like to argue against complaints rather than take anything on board or try to resolve things, as judged by their quite frankly awful social media responses.
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well any 9 digit number sounds like a good system. Also the smiler can and did run 5 trains for a bit which is why its theoretical throughput was just under 1300, however under normal operations its theoretical is around 1000. Thats only a theoretical value so the real value must be much lower.
Not sure how it can have a theoretical throughput of 1300 when the absolute maximum you can push it to (sending it the second it's ready, with no guests on to delay) is 68 dispatches = 1088 if full.
Therefore theoretical is 1088. And as they have managed it a couple of times, is actual too.
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Stealth.. has three trains... so decides to run rotating maintenance so only 2 are ever available.
Other coasters.. have two trains... so do maintenance of both trains over winter.
Tell me what the point in having 3 trains on Stealth is? Cos they've obviously completely lost the plot here (then again, this is the park which loves to run one train until they absolutely need to run two on everything anyway).
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Ah okay that's a good way to do it to stop people doing several ones as I thought others would do it so might as well myself. I did look at it yesterday and tried entering my pass number actually and it said it was too many digits? :S
Btw, you can put any random 9 digit number in and it works
.Smiler doesn't get more than 1000, infact that's it's absolute maximum. Hence it's constant queues.
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For all of time there has been a recognition by theme parks that some people queue jumping ruins other peoples day, as shown in the 'queue jumpers will be removed from park' etc signs which have always been there and wouldn't have been if that were not the case. Then suddenly the parks allow people to break this rule if they throw them a few quid at them. The people standing in the queue still feel the same about it even if the rule breaking is sanctioned by the park. It sucks.
To be fair to the parks, since Fastrack was introduced the amount of queuejumping as diminished. Not because people are politer, but because those likely to queue jump just purchase fastrack instead.
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I have no problems with them running it as long as they've thought about it logically, which they have not.
Do an ERT like towers, one hour for select rides (even if it's just trans) using the main queue. Then end it, boom no issues.
They had issues, and loads of issues, when they used to do free fastrack for annual passes back in the old days. They'll have issues again, and more issues once the time has ended (because people are idiots, at least with the main queue using all they can do is join whatevers there)
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Yeah, hopefully they're putting in basics here.. and then setting a theme.
It's easier to start from scratch with neutral than jumping from one brand to the next.
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Q-bots are a great way of offering fastrack, I've never used one
How can they be great when you haven't used one?
The best way to fastrack is literally timeslotting fastracks. You know how many roughly per hour you get on ride, so allocate 10% to fastrack. Sell those out, done.
The thing with QBot is that they offer VIP experiences, so someone could literally go "hmm, fancy this ride now..." book, and have it instantly accessible to them. There's no limit either, so in theory 100 guests with VIP qbot could all turn up at once and all have the same timeslot. It's a horrible way of managing guest flow, plus I hate the idea of the basic ones where you pay to queue anyway.
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Jason's a nice bloke, he's very active on Twitter too and up for chatting to people (and reads this forum - hello if you see this Jason!).
Definitely better than what they had before, and he can push them in the right direction.. and is really. I dislike Angry Birds Land in how it's appeared however I do enjoy everything else the park has been doing since he's come on board and destroyed the Thrill W@nker Capital stuff.
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- Falls has a realistic of 1,200pph, Tomb's theoretical is the same (but it never achieves it).
- Scorpion Express & Bubbleworks can do 1,100pph.
- Zufari, with all trucks gets 1.000pph.
- Fury gets 950pph, same with Rattlesnake.
- Vampire can do 1,200pph on three trains, and I don't know what it gets on two, sorry.
They are the only rides that have anything above 800pph.
Hope this helps.
You're completely wrong on these.
I'm going to use throughputs from what I remember from the good old days (ie, the days when they pushed throughputs to their very maximum)
Falls is 800, Tomb is 800.
Bubbles is 700
Scorpion will be around 600
Zufari (this is the one I don't know but shall hazard a guess at 450, there is no possible chance of 1000 and I'd love to see how you came to that)
Fury is 600ish, Rattlesnake was 550?
Vamps highest we ever got was 1100 and that was a push. Two trains were 700/750.
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The idea behind it would be so you'd spend more time eating (lol, wheres the decent sitdown restaurants excluding bar 360), more time shopping (lol you have no shops and merchandise is limited) or entertainments (lol you removed all your entertainment, and to put a big show back in the arena would be lovely and costly).
All of this bubbles down to way more cost with little added experience. It's just not worth it whatever, concentrate on directing people/influencing people to ride attractions with short queues, concentrate on maximising throughputs, concentrate on queue line experiences so queues don't feel like a bad part of the day.
That's how to make things successful.
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That'll be down to your cookies rather than the site itself - you'll realise it stays eventually.
It sometimes does this on your browser, showing updated queue times before reverting back to whatever it used to show before it. It's a browser issue rather than the website!
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I think what the area really needs is a chairswing.
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If it is 850pph, it is the highest throughput on park.
I think the realistic throughput was around 600 (come on skyway ops, remind me!) which'll put it on par with other attractions in Chessie.
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Where's the space for it?
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Yeah rides works like that, you don't have shift times (so you're not stuck to 4hrs or something).
Other departments are more rigid. It's mainly car parks, rides, cleaning, sales which do the entire day.
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Mm that'll be a fun day for guests using the main queues. With both fastrack and reserve going ahead of them, which means any queue board will be highly inaccurate.
Don't get me wrong, it's very good that they're allowing people to queue. Very good. Just wouldn't enjoy being in normal queues myself when you've got no limit on those using reserve and ride at the moment!