Mark9

It's only half the story. When people go to Florida, people tend to do everything. Very few just go and do Universal or just do Disney, hence why Disney will still growth in spite of what looks like smaller additions. I agree with others that Epcot and Hollywood Studios need something, Animal Kingdom ironically enough is my favourite of the four and a lot of the stuff there is in preparation for Pandora and the new night time show. New dining places, new toilet facilities, relocating Festival of the Lion King. And Magic Kingdom wasn't expecting that kind of growth. Although Seven Drawfs Mine train was never conceived as the next big thing, the guests are seeing it as a major addition. I think come Frozens opening at Epcot, a lot of that will change.

I don't think we're anywhere near the same ball park as Seaworld. The way Towers dealt with the Smiler incident straight away has meant that there is quite a lot of good will towards them. People are returning, even the injured have been pretty open in saying that they don't blame the park and just want to know what happened. It's not the same as people watching Blackfish and assuming Seaworld just kill whales for fun. I think people will still ride whatever the Smiler becomes. Maybe not at first, but over time it will return to normal levels.

Like theming, like ride or is it too early to pun about?

True although at least Disneyland Paris only have them around Ratatouille. Can't beat that authentic theming.

Has this topic falled through time from 2009 or something. Unreliability and Thorpe go together like hand and glove.

So I was attacked by a crazy man on the way to work on Sunday. He snapped my headphones and kind of clawed at my face. And now yesterday, a man was attacked with a knife at Kings Cross and I kept help feeling guilty that I didn't report what happened to me. There's a high chance it's a different man but I can't help the feeling in the back of my mind that I shouldn't have just let it go.

No one really commented on this before so I'll give an opinion. It's nice to see the Dive machine and flying coasters selling more and more right now it seems that life found a way. For a while we seemed to just be seeing hyper coasters but now the other models are selling it's good. There it is.

Disagreed. Build a ride that people don't know they want and people come. People don't have fond memories of Professor Burps Bubbleworks, Fifth Dimension, Forbidden/Terror tomb or Haunted House at AT for no reason. These were rides that people rode in their youth, weren't build to fulfil a function and were rides that captured peoples imaginations. Reason being, they were rides that took risks, weren't fitting a convention and were built because the designers wanted to build something story driven and completely different. The problem I can see with WC16 all is that thanks to social media we are seeing every aspect of this thing from the ground up. We've gone beyond secrets, I'm sure everybody has heard rumours about what the ride is going to be about and what it actually is so all elements of surprise have already gone. The fact people have already written this thing off as a let-down just says it all.

2/10. Stop trying to inspire me.

Wouldn't it be great if all these problems could be sorted. I never think of it as complaining though because if people are that burnt by visits, they would never go back. In spite of all the issues, you still enjoy the place and thats the most important thing.

The comment about Hex I can just about take but then saying the Haunting is preferable...

That looks great. It's amazing that when Six Flags do it I can't stand them, but Dollywood makes one and suddenly I'm all ears.

Pretty much. The ride system only holds one car outside the loading platform so if there's a delay, the one behind it will just whack into it. Come to think of it, there used to be five cars on Toadies during busy periods.

Overhype much . Tell ya what, if it even matches Ratatouille or Pirates of the Caribbean, I'll buy you a pint.

Most of the rides that I fell in love with have either been ruined by management or already gone. I'll always have my memories of that fantastic red and black gondola spinning away in Mystic East however I've never got on with Samurai at Thorpe. Only a couple of times has it ever shown the pace or thrill of when it was back at Chessington. It's become a bit of an embarrassment and its really kind of astounding that it and Slammer still get money pumped into them.

I hear you man. I hate the keyboard warriors who seem to be on a constant mission to shame everyone and everything or to cause unnecessary arguments.

Just bin the bloody thing.

Lies, back when I was an operator its queue was a maximum of fifteen minutes. It's all because they've lowered the throughput of the thing, we're talking a reduction of 25% which is massive.

Nothing like a bit of brain alteration when visiting your local theme park is there. I wonder if Merlin have forgotten that theme parks can have scary rides with fun themes (Stealth, Tidal Wave) or are we just stuck in this cycle of scary ride = dark scary themes. This is all said in mind that we still don't know what the theme is beyond brains and eyes.

Surprised this is slipping past but anyway,Phalanax Archive on twitter are doing a lot of tweets relating to SW8Groundworks/200mFV17. Also says their archive has been compromised, so maybe an SW8 announcement is about to happen.

That last picture looks beautiful. I want it now.

Yes. Luckily I didn't say I believe in the idea that the two are the same thing.

I can't wait for Thorpe to get a flipping top spin because then we wouldn't have to put up with flipping jokes about them adding one every few weeks. Post was edited for swearing.

It's the idea that the investment in hotel and stay over facilities comes at the cost of in park investment.

I stand by what I'm saying, we're comparing the park that always runs full capacity on its rides against the one that puts one train on things to save electricity or puts up queue times to sell more fastrack.