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2021 edition Part 1

 

People who think in a Nemesis vs Nemesis Inferno poll, that preferring Inferno is a controversial opinion. It's not, it's completely understandable and is discussed almost weekly by twitter coaster enthusiasts.

 

People who think Southerners hate Blackpool Pleasure Beach because its in the North. What kind of stupidity is that? I also hate Margate for similar reasons to the town of Blackpool for the sole reason its an absolute dive.

 

I really think its ludicrous that people will completely dismiss rides like Icon and Helix because their launches aren't as good as other rides. It's also equally as ludicrous that the respective parks sell the ride on the launches alone when they are nowhere near the most interesting part of those rides.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Mark9 said:

People who think Southerners hate Blackpool Pleasure Beach because its in the North. What kind of stupidity is that? I also hate Margate for similar reasons to the town of Blackpool for the sole reason its an absolute dive.

 

 

Honestly for those who think Blackpool is a dive (they ain't wrong in fairness), Margate makes Blackpool look like Orlando.

 

Never been to such a depressing town in my whole life and thats coming from a fella who lives in Maidenhead for christ sake.

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1 hour ago, Mark9 said:

People who think Southerners hate Blackpool Pleasure Beach because its in the North. What kind of stupidity is that? I also hate Margate for similar reasons to the town of Blackpool for the sole reason its an absolute dive.

 

I still don't get the fuss over BPB in general. It has almost a cult-level following by some people, and I genuinely don't understand why.

 

The only argument I ever see people make in its favour is it's got some old rides and a Weatherspoons nearby. Yay?

 

EDIT: Just seen a tweet which I assume sparked Mark's thoughts. Kind of feels like those who like Blackpool get on the defensive whenever people dislike Blackpool and retort with "Yeah, but there's other places which are worse". Such a magical response which immediately solves Blackpool's problems.

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3 hours ago, Mark9 said:

2021 edition Part 1

 

People who think in a Nemesis vs Nemesis Inferno poll, that preferring Inferno is a controversial opinion. It's not, it's completely understandable and is discussed almost weekly by twitter coaster enthusiasts.


Nothing controversial really about the first point. It seems in the early years Nemy was by far the favoured of the two, but nowadays it seems almost 50/50. I think Nemy will probably always have the higher vote, but nothing controversial at all. There’s some similarities between preferring Taron or Helix.

3 hours ago, Mark9 said:

 

 

People who think Southerners hate Blackpool Pleasure Beach because its in the North. What kind of stupidity is that? I also hate Margate for similar reasons to the town of Blackpool for the sole reason its an absolute dive.


I think it’s natural to still like a park even if the area it’s located is unfavourable. I’ve certainly heard of many who like BPB but hate the town! I guess this whole “Southerners hate Blackpool” thing must be relating with the North/South divide. 
 

I personally don’t mind Blackpool due to it’s Sea Side location and array of attractions. It’s got a lot of rough edges but otherwise it’s ok. Maybe that’s an unpopular opinion on its own. 
 

2 hours ago, JoshC. said:

 

I still don't get the fuss over BPB in general. It has almost a cult-level following by some people, and I genuinely don't understand why.

 

The only argument I ever see people make in its favour is it's got some old rides and a Weatherspoons nearby. Yay?

 

 

Aside from it’s historical content and “Spoons”, I guess the overall appeal about Blackpool is all within the variety of rides. Coasters, dark rides, etc. Plus it features some of the highest and biggest rides in the country. 
 

Don’t get me wrong, it has imperfections like everywhere, but it’s all a question of what one likes or expects from the park. There seems to typically be three types of enthusiasts as BPB is concerned. Those who love and adore the place, those who like it (but say it’s not as good as it was) and those who don’t really like the place. 

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Pleasure Beach being adored by some enthusiasts and disliked by others does make sense though, since I feel the same about Thorpe.  It's put on a pedestal by enthusiasts but I personally find it pretty awful, the only coaster I really like there is Inferno and in terms of other rides besides the headliners, there's naff all.

 

Blackpool is in my view a much better park than the others in the UK, the ride offering is much more complete and almost all the coasters are thrilling, plus there's the retro rides too.  It's also important to remember the nostalgia for lots of people goes towards making a park feel special to them, growing up visiting etc.


As a town, I've never really had any issues with Blackpool, every big town or city has rough areas but the tourist areas of Blackpool (and to be fair any area I've been to there) are ace.

 

BPB for me hasn't been on form for a few years now, but after most of last year spent away from the park I'm very excited to go back.

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Blackpool is always a weird one. When it's on form it's a really nice park, but when it's bad it's really bad (much like Thorpe can be).

 

I'd certainly agree it's the currently most well rounded of the UK parks. But a distinct lack of direction and removing fan favourites has been problematic. Icon was also just average as an addition.

 

In terms of depressing seaside towns, Hemsby wins that argument.

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2021 Edition Part two.

 

The other day, someone said Steel Vengeance was over-rated. I'm going to stand out here, shout to the world that if you decide to refer to something as over-rated then you have no critical discourse whatsoever and you need to pick up a thesaurus and learn some new descriptive language. Saying something is over-rated is the laziest critique anyone can possibly muster up because it requires no explanation and only looks to disregard peoples opinion. It says to others, 'sure you like a ride but thats only because you're following the crowd. No, I am the only true oracle, the only one that can see past the rose tinted glasses of hype and I stand before you now to tell you that you're a blind sheeple. Follow me, I declare that Steel vengeance/Taron/Nemesis/anything people quite like isn't as good as you think it is'.

 

Under-rated is different. There are so many attractions out there (Alpina Blitz at Nigloland for example) that fall completely under the radar and deserve to be spoken about more. The term under-rated is actually quite nice because it can be used to inspire people to try something or go somewhere they wouldn't necessarily go to without the recommendation. 

 

Over-rated is an awful awful phrase and looks to just belittle others viewpoints and enjoyment. 

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5 hours ago, Mark9 said:

2021 Edition Part two.

 

The other day, someone said Steel Vengeance was over-rated. I'm going to stand out here, shout to the world that if you decide to refer to something as over-rated then you have no critical discourse whatsoever and you need to pick up a thesaurus and learn some new descriptive language. Saying something is over-rated is the laziest critique anyone can possibly muster up because it requires no explanation and only looks to disregard peoples opinion. It says to others, 'sure you like a ride but thats only because you're following the crowd. No, I am the only true oracle, the only one that can see past the rose tinted glasses of hype and I stand before you now to tell you that you're a blind sheeple. Follow me, I declare that Steel vengeance/Taron/Nemesis/anything people quite like isn't as good as you think it is'.

 

Under-rated is different. There are so many attractions out there (Alpina Blitz at Nigloland for example) that fall completely under the radar and deserve to be spoken about more. The term under-rated is actually quite nice because it can be used to inspire people to try something or go somewhere they wouldn't necessarily go to without the recommendation. 

 

Over-rated is an awful awful phrase and looks to just belittle others viewpoints and enjoyment. 

 

This!!

 

Honestly never seen a post hit the nail on the head more than this one!!

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On 4/5/2021 at 11:36 AM, JoshC. said:

 

I still don't get the fuss over BPB in general. It has almost a cult-level following by some people, and I genuinely don't understand why.

 

The only argument I ever see people make in its favour is it's got some old rides and a Weatherspoons nearby. Yay?

 

EDIT: Just seen a tweet which I assume sparked Mark's thoughts. Kind of feels like those who like Blackpool get on the defensive whenever people dislike Blackpool and retort with "Yeah, but there's other places which are worse". Such a magical response which immediately solves Blackpool's problems.

I just wanted to add my two cents to this- I feel like Blackpool is so liked as it is actually quite unique. Blackpool has so many weird throwbacks to the past in its lineup, rides like Steeplechase are absolutely old gems, you cannot ride a Steeplechase anywhere else. Revolution is a great coaster, and happens to also be one of 3 operating (the only one in Europe, and the most well known of its kind). Throw in 4 fun retro woodies, one of the best Mack Bobsleds, and a good looking Mack. I do see why people like the park.

 

Sure it is really strictly an amusement park- most of the rides are not themed, but the park know that. They keep their classic dark rides, like Alice, River Caves, Ghost Train. Which are always pretty charming, and good fun. They have Skyforce which is the best non Detonator flat ride in the UK IMO. Skyforce also happens to be incredibly reridable and enjoyable too. The park sure is a bit outdated, it does not look the pretty. But I always have a blast there, I think it is easily the most well known non merlin park, and for good reason. Even though I make fun of it every now and then, I do respect it as the second best park in the UK. I do think it has fans for a reason. It certainly has its unique quirks, I feel a lot of parks that are as old as Blackpool haven't preserved the past as well as Blackpool had, the fact they have rides like Revolution and Steeplechase still going shows..

 

Now sure someone might make a Wild Mouse comment, but honestly you have to remember it was a in-house wooden wild mouse, it had a bad throughput, and we did get a consolation prize the next year.

Wild Mouse was the best ride on the park, yes. But I bet it was wholely complicated, Wooden Wild Mouses are nearly extinct (I think there is one left), and that is for a reason. The park do take care of their wooden coasters quite well, and they have still their arrows running strong, so it is not like the park do not try. Sometimes you cannot preserve everything.

 

On 4/8/2021 at 10:27 AM, Mark9 said:

2021 Edition Part two.

 

The other day, someone said Steel Vengeance was over-rated. I'm going to stand out here, shout to the world that if you decide to refer to something as over-rated then you have no critical discourse whatsoever and you need to pick up a thesaurus and learn some new descriptive language. Saying something is over-rated is the laziest critique anyone can possibly muster up because it requires no explanation and only looks to disregard peoples opinion. It says to others, 'sure you like a ride but thats only because you're following the crowd. No, I am the only true oracle, the only one that can see past the rose tinted glasses of hype and I stand before you now to tell you that you're a blind sheeple. Follow me, I declare that Steel vengeance/Taron/Nemesis/anything people quite like isn't as good as you think it is'.

I agree, as a 'I'm better than you' kind of thing- I really hope this one day stops. I think a lot of people (including myself) have coined rides over-rated (like Millenium). I think it really just stems to what each of us want in a coaster, I know people like Millenium for its speed and length, what I value in coasters the most is airtime. I think people really go in expecting without considering that ride really actually will not appeal to their indivdual taste. And then coin it as over-rated. Which is perhaps a bit of bad way of saying you perhaps do not have a common opinion on a ride. Which is what I have been guilty of in the past. I think if people elaborated more on why the coaster did not live up to their own personal expectations- it wouldn't be so bad!

 

Okay enough rambling for the day

 

 

 

 

 

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So I wanted to add a list of under-rated rides I have ridden- for those rides that do not get appreciated enough.

 

Eurosat- Europa Park

In a park full of loads of things to talk about- food, shows, theming. And their big 3, plus Arthur. Euro-Mir's wackyness and its forceful ending. Eurosat seems to not get talked about much. Which is odd considering it is in a huge white dome. The coaster itself is one of the best indoor coasters IMO, ever since the re-track the ride is butter smooth. Has some good laterals, and is a fairly long ride. It is a family coaster, but it does have a bite to it. It also is mostly in darkness so that really adds to it (plus the use of theming as the only lights on the ride).

 

Tomahawk- Portaventura

I was considering putting Stampida here, but then I remembered some of the dreary rides I have had on it throughout the years- the awful roughness, or the horrible pacing where the ride just starts crawling.

Its neighbour though, Tomahawk is an amazing family wooden coaster. It is very small, it is not very long, but it does pack in some good forces for what it is. When the park has two high questionable intamins, and two high profile B&M's, I guess it is quite easy to forget about Tomahawk.

 

Blue Streak- Cedar Point

People like this ride- but it gets buried in the deep sea of great roller coasters at Cedar Point.

I often forget about when talking about Cedar Point, which is a grave shame. As it is a pretty classic fun woodie.

 

Gemini- Cedar Point

A great racing coaster with good airtime. And a real sense of quirkiness. Again, if this was at Thorpe, it'd be revelled as amazing. But at a park like Cedar Point, it just kind of gets buried sadly.

 

Rougarou- Cedar Point

This seems to get a lot of hate- which honestly I do not get. It is a good coaster IMO, way better than Valravn. It is not the smoothest ride, nor does it have the best layout. But it is a fun coaster, that has somehwhat of a different style of layout for a floorless. If this was not at Cedar Point, again, I think it would get more love.

 

Runaway Mountain- SFOT

A premier rides coaster with a lift chain? This ride is very akin to Eurosat. But a little smaller. It is compact, forceful, in the dark, and a very fun smooth ride.

 

Viper- Six Flags Great America

This woodie is respected, but honestly it deserves a bigger reception. It is one of my favourites woodies, period. It has great airtime, laterals, forces. It is such a classic woodie, and is kept in great condition by Six Flags. It is top 3 at Great America for me, it is a very strong wooden coaster.

 

The Joker- Great America

These things get hated on too much- I actually think they are such fun rides.

 

American Eagle- Great America

Okay it is brutal as hell, but the ride has some great airtime, so many laterals it is painful. It is also a beast of a woodie.

 

 

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