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I don't know how these deals work, but what has either side got to gain in removing the franchise? As has been said, Saw as an ongoing production has died. Lionsgate have nothing to either protect or promote with the name so I can't imagine much value is placed on it any more. If it can be bought fairly cheaply they may as well keep it going - would probably cost a lot less then spending on a re theme. Or are these IPs really that expensive?

maybe I'll calm it down on the teacups from now on!!

"DON'T BE A NEMESISSY". Love it.

With my work I come across this all too frequently. In 4 years I have been to two train suicides (in both cases the person very swiftly and successfully ended their life), one hanging and literally hundreds of overdose and self harm attempts - not one of which has been successful. I would imagine this is why train can be the method of choice. These things don't bother me too much, it's just the way I am and I suppose to an extent I've got used to it. But I know it really freaks a lot of my colleagues out; consider we literally have to go and clear up the mess and then inform loved ones of the deceased, neither of which are very pleasant jobs to say the least. The train driver often will not know they have hit someone, but when they do see it coming it must be a terrible feeling for them. I'm sure some people who commit suicide get to the point where they know the consequences of their actions but just don't care, but I would imagine 99% of people have not given a second thought to these knock on effects of what they do - not out of spite or selfishness but purely because they've got so much on their plate they can't cope with that they just can't see it.Whatever the inconvenience you suffer as a result of this just remember - someone somewhere is having a worse day than you.

^I had error message. Only tried once though.

Amazing how quickly everything changes out there. It's 6 years since I went and a lot of it sounds like a completely different place. Must go and get myself a virgin brochure...

Spinball - two years after Air, one year before Rita. A filler year, and a ride that I put in the same bracket as 13 in terms of hardware quality.Anyway, the advert is for Altons best ride ever - where's the button for Toyland Tours?!!

Don't get me wrong, as I've said I do enjoy a lot of things about 13. I had no major thrill expectations myself as from very early construction pics it was clear what type of ride was going up. But in reference to this vote I just don't see it in the same league as the other 4, it's in the group bellow with spinball and mine train because that's the sort of ride it is (kiddie/family). Which shouldn't be the type of ride we get from a SW major investment year, I'd expect it in a filler year!

No it's not, that's my problem with it. The actual ride is not good enough. The idea and (most of the) execution of the indoor section is great, but the actual ride they've done it with is lame to start with, and made downright pathetic with the trim breaks. If they had built a proper thrill coaster with that trick in it it could have been amazing, but it's not.

True. Rita is no coaster triumph, but I would at least put it in the same league as t'others, just at the bottom of that league. I actually enjoy the final 3rd of 13 a lot, and the outdoor section wouldn't be too bad if it wasn't for the invasion of the trims. But overall see 13 on a par with spinball, the second league of Towers rides if you like. Whichever way you roll it, it is a kids/family coaster with a gimmick, it never should have been SW material and the only thing that puts it in that class is the cost, not the experience. How they managed to spend 15m on it is beyond me.

Love this.Nemesis will win. What would be more interesting is finding how much th13teen comes last by what comes last - but I doubt they'll tell us that.

He should have watched the safety video..... http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/743c7cd5a7/rollercoaster-safety-with-patrick-warburton EDIT - Why does nothing I do embed. I'm using the little button and everything. I'm useless at this stuff.

More importantly, has the ride op been turned down?!

Professor Turds sewage works.A fun trip for all the family through a Transylvanian treatment plant.Could work!

But then who cares about bitching when you have Milka to comfort you!!Milka is currently half price in Tesco!!! 52p for the fairly large but not massive ones.

There are no health and safety reasons to have no strobe lighting. Strobes are not in any way inherently unsafe, a simple 'strobe lighting is used in this attraction' sign is all that is required.They may have decided from an all guest inclusion view point to not include strobes so epileptics can ride. It annoys me more that they have spent money putting in such awful new lighting than if they had just not bothered. What a waste of cash and opportunity.

Nearly impossible for me to choose between the two. I need both in my life! I couldn't do one top 10 because I can't really compare them. I can completely enjoy and appreciate a great thrill ride with no themeing at all (although 6flags push this too far with parking lot - the ride). In fact I don't think a large outdoor thrill ride can be themed in a way that changes the actual on ride experience much. To really work as an experience, themeing needs to be completely immersive, that's just no possible when you are so high up you can see for miles around. Unless you can build something on Disney scale to block out your surroundings, or in a hole like Nemesis.My perfect ride is TAAO Spiderman, which I guess is an experience ride made thrilling. If I have to decide, I'd go experience rides. When done well they have a soul and joy about them that a coaster can rarely match.

Haha, yeah true. They'd have had to chav it up a bit "yo yo yo ho ho, this is a mother funkin hold up you sons of biscuits. You've got da black spot, innit blud"

^ I have no idea who this girl is!

Who remembers the black spot? A long time ago, a bit sketchy in my mind.I seem to remember the train to the farm being diverted occasionally, some went straight to the farm, others got theatrically 'hijacked' by pirates where a kind of show was put on by actors when the train stopped. A few terrified kiddies were pulled from the train to be used in the show and at some point a black spot was put in the palm of the hand of one of them. They would then be told they would die a slow and painful death because of their black spot(!), but be given a voucher for a free ice cream to make up for it. Such a good idea and I remember loving it as a child. Why was it gotten rid of? Would such a thing have a place in todays Thorpe?My little sister was once infected, she got the black spot (+free ice cream!), and I am forever jealous.

If this is happening all the time there is clearly not enough water flowing down the slide to keep the boats moving. Possibly because it's pissing out all over the floor from every badly sealed join. It's not falling into a reservoir either, their water bill will be huge this year!

I am being nice! Anyway........ back to.......Top 10: Non coasters1 - The Amazing Adventures of Spiderman - IOAIt really is amazing. I rode it again and again, sometimes with the glasses on, sometimes off, trying to work out how it all works. However they've done it the overall result is sensational, completely immersing you in another world.2 - Mickeys Philarmagic - DMKJust enchanting. It is 10minute slice of pure Disney; funny, sickly sweet and perfect in every way.3 - Tower Of Terror - DHSAgain, totally immersive experience leads up to an incredibly fun ride. The corridor disappearing into the night sky is another effect that makes my head hurt with it's brilliance. 4 - Bilge Rat Barges - IOAThe best water ride I've ridden. So wild, makes all other rapids rides feel tame. 5 - Hex - ATA superbly executed, deeply themed walk through leading to a great effect in the madhouse. Now I know what's coming I love watching the reactions of those who don't. Sets the standard for UK theming.6 - Bubbleworks - CWOAThe original, no ducks allowed. The main ride was pure childish fun with a bit of soul, the finale was a truly awesome effect to a child. Bring on the strobes.7 - Mission Space - EpcotSuch a clever trick, the effect is amazing8 - 5th Dimension - CWOAGetting shrunk and attacked by Arctic alien with laser type things, an 8 year olds dream. The smell of dry ice puts me right back in front of zapomatic even now. What I would give to be able to ride it today.9 - Hearts and Diamonds (aka round-up) - Various travelling fairsYou can spend all you like on a big shiny s+s prototype, but the ultimate 'flat' thrill is still this very simple, seatbelt-less, incredibly intense ride. Huge throughput for a flat, too. Why don't they turn up in modern theme parks?10 - The Snails - Joyland, Grt YarmouthA really personal choice, one of my earliest memories. Having ridden it again as an adult it is still a fun ride with character that can only come with age. (hmm, this might, technically, be a coaster)

I know the troll should not be fed, but...Putting a cardboard cut out of a superhero the park have invented to tell you how tall you have to be to ride does not give the ride a theme. It becomes a ride with a cardboard cut out, not a themed ride. I love rage btw, just not enough to put it in my top 10. I'm not knocking it. But it has no theme.

I'd never even heard of this park...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-14009704 Oh dear.