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Just asking for trouble but then again, the French are permanently striking at the moment so it might be alright.

I sort of agree. I think the actual entrance building, the bridge and the view from outside the dome are great, up there with Towers Street. But the problem is before you get to the Entrance building, Thorpe looks like a prison. There is zero attempt to incorporate security with an inviting experience. The Dome is so awful now, it's just modern with no personality. I like the pictures on the outside of peoples selfies from their day. But the inside is really poor.

I spent twenty minutes in one room on Black Mirror last year. True story.

It's easier if you just think of Thorpe Park as the UK's answer to a mid tier Cedar Fair park. Chessington is the theme park, Alton is the void with empty space masquerading as themed environments and Thorpe is IKEA.

They just need the Chessington team to come over I think.

Ug swinger got some fantastic paving when that was removed as well. The way Towers deals with its crippling lack of rides is so stupid. It's an absolutely giant theme park and after a 15 minute walk you find Galatica, Blade and an always closed temporary flat ride. Such a joke.

Why the Teacups of all things? Should have been Ghost Train.

Alton Towers continuing to have their heads in the sand by still doing retro squad and not actually addressing the severe lack of rides is a vibe I'm not really into it. 2021, this made sense. Two years later they need to get their act together.

I mean it has a similar capacity to Fury and that always top out at around 60 minutes on peak days. Maybe it will do a Swarm and be a complete and utter failure.

It does kind of matter to me that a rollercoaster has substance to it. When you say, it doesn't offer much, then I think my description of atrocious is justified.

Hes not wrong with Saw. its an absolutely atrocious ride.

Thats no way to talk about Depth Charge and Rumba Rapids.

Which to be fair, at the moment is far more likely at Towers than it is at Thorpe. Hence probably why Thorpe is still only seen as a one day park.

Nemesis was sold on it being Europes first inverted coaster but their aim was to big it make the Jurassic Park of 1994. They aimed high and I think they delivered on every level. But back then this was a balanced theme park with a large array of rides for a large age range. It's not balanced anymore. They've fallen into a similar trap as Disney where everything has to be the next big thing, No warm up act, only the main event. I personally did not enjoy my trips last year. Massive queues, everything broken down. every area looking tired and run down. Chessington and Thorpe, for my money, are far better right now.

Ah okay, I just read it as a flat ride thing. It's still a hard disagree for me here though and I think Towers are really stuck now. I'd only really consider Spinball & Rita to be a plus in the last twenty years, as you say Wicker Man replaced Flume (wicker with lower capacity), Thirteen replaced Corkscrew and Smiler replaced Black Hole. So we've actually lost a lot of capacity to get these coasters in, hence why we see situations like last year where everything is either broken or at 80 minutes plus wait times. Hence why all this talk about maintenance bills is a bit of a red herring, the maintenance at the park has been awful over the last two years. Crazily, I really really think Towers need to do what Chessington are doing (and what Thorpe did) and plussing the support ride line up to help the rollercoasters and to spread the demand.

I'd agree if that was true. But it isn't. Each time we've lost a flat ride over the last twenty years, we've gained empty space not a new rollercoaster. Ripsaw - Nothing Boneshaker - Nothing Dynamo - Empty space for 9 years, it's replacement lasting only 2 and a half years Mushroom Swinger - Nothing (although I'm still not sure if that twister is a permanent addition or not). Enterprise - Nothing Submission - Nothing You can count the temporary retro squad if you want, I don't as they are literally desperate additions to spread the ride line up. Towers is full of these empty holes where rides used to be. None of the current rollercoaster line up were made possible because a flat ride left the park.

Enterprise has officially gone with its hole now filled (no jokes, please).

It's been completing its full test runs as well. It's exactly what I expected it to be and yet that giddy thrill of a real, proper, big manufacturer modern rollercoaster at Chessington just fills me with pure joy. I love it

I thought it looked faster than I was expecting which is weird to be honest. I'm frankly amazed it makes it around the track.

And yet you willingly included your email address in a post and got signed up to lots of porn accounts. Guess you can't see everything. What would you like us to speculate about? The comedy duck from The Flume being included here because all manors have ducks? Maybe they could include the giant blueberry girl from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. All manors have blueberry bushes.

I mean, she had such a huge impact in Haunted House and Duel. Pivotal almost.

I can't believe the ride that everyone hates is being adjusted and everyone hates its even more.

I mean, it's cool that it's confirmed to be a Mack. All we need is an RMC next year at Drayton and then the UK is back on the world stage.

I'd rather the deconstruction was happening on that ride to be honest.

I mean it could be better than Phantom Manor but basing it on marketing alone is a bit odd. We know what Phantom is about, we've had four years since it reopened. We don't actually know anything concrete about the new attraction.