Mark9

100% Agreed. I'd spend a long time at Oakwood just for Speed and especially Megafobia.

I'm only semi serious. I just couldn't begrudge £5 for what is essentially 5-10 minute queues for the parks main rides. I find it hard to think of that as poor value when you could pay £6 to ride Brighton Piers Turbo once or the amount people pay for Chessington to get on Seastorm and Skyway. What Thorpe offer looks like great value to me.

Would you mind answering my question on how many rides you got on please. MY GOD NO! NOT A TWO MINUTE WAIT FOR A ROLLERCOASTER! No wonder you are outraged.

Wait hang on. How many rides did you get on exactly?

Batman La Fuga and Superman de Acero in the same park is 132 centimetre height restriction and Oz'Iris had a sign saying it was 1.3 metres So they are out there.

Literally just explained that isn't the problem. You can have 15,000 people in a theme park getting on several rides but if the operations are rubbish then they aren't getting on anything.

I quoted your whole post because.. well I can. Thing is, I Disagree. B&M have proved that they can cater the hyper to smaller sizes, take Hollywood Dream at Universal Japan. That's a maximum height of 144 feet and takes many of its air time hills just above pathways and buildings. Thorpe, if they wanted, could easily ask for it to be similar height to The Swarm, make the trains shorter and then woolah, you've got a mega coaster. B&M are not against shortening trains or fitting into tight spaces either, take Dæmonen with its six row floorless trains or the way it was wedged into Tivoli Gardens. The thing with Universal and Busch is that it doesn't hold much weight. Universal built Rip Ride Rockit which does intrude on that side of the park, Busch Gardens (I know you specified Tampa, but I'm talking the company in general) have the stylised Apollos Chariot or Kumba and Sheikra. Even Disney has the high rides but it has the dollars to build a ridiculous amount of theming to hide the height. They even sold Expedition Everest on the back of its expensive installation costs. The Sore thumb. Mack can surprise you. Back in 2009, no one thought Blue Fire would be able to be as fantastic as it could be and there is absolutely no reason why they couldn't build a mega coaster if they were asked to. Afterall, rides with air time are in vogue at the moment, the success of Shambhala, Leviathan, Intimidator305 and the likes of Piraten won't have gone a miss.

The difference is Matt, Thorpe has had the Lions share of the investment over the last ten years whilst Chessington has been left to crumble into the state its become. It's all coming to a head this season. Ironically, the one year where they get a new attraction and good weather is the year that Runaway and Rameses becomes SBNO. If it was at Thorpe, it wouldn't matter if Flying Fish spent a year out but because it's Chessington where Runaway is one of the higher capacity attractions (at 650 pph), having it closed has a major knock on effect. Of course, I'm not saying its just Runaway, it's a culmination of Vampire being condemned to two trains, lower attendance's when the park opened in March leading to budget cuts through the rest of the year and a park that is basically falling to its knees. What they really need to do is get a high capacity rollercoaster like Pegasus or Juvelen in, a ride which gobbles through people but the park won't do that so it's a waste of time going down that road and even if it did get one of those rides in, it would be run so dismally that queues would be two hours long and it wouldn't help in anyway. Talking about Chessington just brings people down in other words, lets discuss a park that gives a toss like Thorpe or Europa Park.

Wow. Not even the busy (Or what I would have considered busy rides back in 2005) rides done. Crazy.

Very busy is my best bet. Last few days of school holidays, potential of good weather. Perfect recipe for busy.

Boring, rubbish looking ride. Colour me not interested in these inverting woodies.

SO FIT! (Thanks to Theme Park Collective)

When's Batman going backwards out of interest?

Go. To. Chessington. (Or not as it isn't open, go to Alton Towers for Ripsaw)

Rule 1. Chessington Lies.

I was thinking more Vietnam personally.

Me to. Come on Thorpe, give us what we really want.

The majority of The Swarm and The Smilers costs comes to the construction process. The Swarm costs more in that figure because of the infilling of the lake. Arguably, The Swarm is much more of a quality product then The Smiler so whilst Smiler is already starting to age (not to mention its frequent bouts of closures), The Swarm feels as smooth as it did on open day and has never had a full day closed.

Colour scheme is the best part of this ride. And that is no criticism of the ride.

You mean that really warm part of America that regularly sees temperatures well into the 30's? Chessington would argue that air on on Tomb would be a waste of money but then upkeeping their rides would also be seen as a waste of money so you-know, va la voom.

My favourite part of that growth is the jump in attendance at Towers thanks to Nemesis

Less talk, MORE TRIP REPORT!

It's been that way for years.

Happy Birthday Big Dipper

That looks so awesome. I swear two days ago there was only the station and a bit of the immelman track and then suddenly, bam, its nearly finished. Very fast construction! Probably but lets not forget that The Swarm is still a great ride. The wing rider should evolve as more parks get their holds on one. I'm not sure it looks better, it certainly looks tidier though.