Mark9

Best Rock 'N' Tug music ever.

Agreed, Helix is far more about the aggressive air time then any kind of intensity. I'm hoping Icon can join the Helix/Taron debate next year ie secretly hoping we can have a ride like Taron or Helix in the UK would make me beyond happy.

Here's the thing. People will moan, complain, get angry. But they'll still buy the pass. They should stick to their guns and just not renew when that time comes around if they truly believe Merlin are as evil as they say they are.

I see the outrage has already begun.

I don't think its a shame at all. As many people as possible should have the opportunity to get on these rides, cloned or not. It's being painted as being very easy to just hop on planes and go everywhere but that isn't the reality. I shall never ride the Dubai, China or Russian blue fire clones because of cultural and law issues (and moral but thats a discussion for a different topic) for example. If Europa Parks version hadn't opened first, I'd miss out on a fantastic ride because of it. That isn't a situation unique to just me. In conclusion, cloned rides give more people the opportunity to ride a product. If Nemesis was cloned in China, that doesn't take anything whatsoever away from the original.

Could have been a good discussion to be honest. Nobody here seems particularly angry or emotional about your first post, they are just debating the points you made.

Coming from an enthusiast. The vast majority of the public will never have even heard of the original let alone go and ride it. The snobbery around cloned rides also bothers me, if a ride is good why shouldn't the manufacturer reap the rewards by cloning it if a park wants it.

I'd agree if it was another park in Japan getting a Takabisha clone after all what would be the point. But a park in New Jersey? Gives more people the opportunity to ride that particular layout surely..

This is how you say goodbye to one of your longest serving and much loved rides.

I'm not queuing that long for it no matter how good it might be.

I'm playing through Super Mario Odyssey at the moment and it's taken me a while but I really do believe it's one of the best games of all time. Nintendo have created a game that is so special and exciting and fully deserves all the praise its got. It's this generations Super Mario 64.

Should have gone for the 'we've built a rollercoaster that we hope you'll enjoy' instead of pretending its something more. Ah well.

Today is the last day of the original EuroSat. No tears. The first rollercoaster to depart Europa Park.

2003 is nearly 15 years ago now, thats the last time the annual pass was a proper annual pass without tiers or visit limits.

So there's one SBNO ride currently which will definitely not be opening in 2018. I'll put that to bed right now, Loggers is not opening in 2018. You're setting yourself up for disappointment if you believe that it could open next March. What I really want to see at Thorpe is the presentation to be high on the agenda. That entrance way is utterly horrific. Years and years of quick fixes have left it looking like a ghastly mess. Temporary fences as far as the eye can see, security stations set up in odd locations, ticket booths everywhere but never clear which ones are open (In fact, are the ones just after the main Thorpe Park sign ever used??!). I'd personally destroy the whole lot and start all over again.

Parc Asterix X1 Nigloland X 1 Holiday Park X1 Phantasialand X2 Movie Park Germany X1 Efteling X1 Thorpe Park X2 Europa Park X3 Chessington X1 Walygator Parc X1 Disneyland Parc (Paris) X10 Studio Park X4 Alton Towers X1 Margate Dreamland X1 Still to Come:- Busch Gardens Tampa X1 Seaworld Orlando X1 Animal Kingdom X5 Epcot X2 Hollywood Studios X2 Magic Kingdom X3

If we're just talking launches, I'll have to go with Stealth as that is an absolute beast of a launch and its definitly the acceleration that gets me, not necessarily the speed. Out of however many I've done, it's the only one where I really feel the force. Furius Baco comes close in this regard. As good as Mack rides are, the launches are relatively gentle and calm compared to the accelerators.

Nah its crap but I wouldn't want to see it go for that reason. There's a worrying trend across the Merlin parks in the last few years of cutting rides with no replacements which is understandable in itself if a ride is at the end of its life etc etc, but the price keeps going up making a visit less and less worthwhile.

Creepy Caves must be on the bigger surprises of the year side of things really. Considering all the pre-opening stuff was pretty dire and cheap looking, the attraction has spoken for itself and delivered. They just need to retain the elements that made it successful for this year and not butcher it in 2018.

All in good time.. The financial struggles have certainly hindered the parks progress but the place has come on leaps and bounds since I first visited four years ago and I would guarantee some investment starting to come in ride hardware before the 30th. Unlike Florida and California though, I find Paris the more relaxing of the Disney parks. I don't feel like I have to rush around and plan every second of the day just to get the best out of it. Whilst some wouldn't like that there's not much to do, I find the place always fills up 12/13 hours easily.

Zone ten looks fricking amazing. Really great to see a park being fully re-imagined and invested in. Exciting times ahead it would seem.

The most loyal customers (season pass holders) should know that some things are out of the parks control and these things are done for good reason and not just to annoy people. I take it you were there so I'd like a few more first hand account before being outraged. What were the queues like for the 30 rides that were open at 5:45pm, was there lots of people still purchasing food and drink, merchandise. Did they literally chuck you out of the park, did you receive any notice that the park would be shutting earlier then planned? If you did, were the staff all smug about it, providing you with the bad customer service that you've said twice now.

From the Pleasure Beach website.. 6.1. The issue of a ticket or wristband shall not guarantee, nor does Pleasure Beach warrant: The availability and/or quantity of any particular ride(s), show(s), device(s) or attraction(s) upon any visit to Pleasure Beach, That access shall be given to any particular ride(s), show(s), device(s) or attraction(s), Exemption from height or other restrictions that may apply from time to time, The opening and closing time of Pleasure Beach, which may vary from time to time at the sole discretion of Pleasure Beach.

Anyone have any idea why Black Holes music AKA Detonators old soundtrack is now playing near Oblivion? Although I love the track it is a bit out of place..

Shamelessly stolen from the Blackpool facebook page. YAAAAASSS! Excitement levels just increased by like 1000% .