Kevin Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 According to fire regulations, apparently so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Fire regulations say we should cramp everyone into one small area rather than keep it empty? Colour me confused dot com...If done CORRECTLY, Vampire can excessively benefit from row batching, just need to get the staff trained up to a decent level, which is what also should be happening to even the most average of staff... If they're average, why is this? The trainers are as much at fault for poor platformers as the people are themselves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 So blame the TL's? I can deal with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkmad Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 Fire regulations say we should cramp everyone into one small area rather than keep it empty? Colour me confused dot com...If done CORRECTLY, Vampire can excessively benefit from row batching, just need to get the staff trained up to a decent level, which is what also should be happening to even the most average of staff... If they're average, why is this? The trainers are as much at fault for poor platformers as the people are themselves...The only problem with batching is a lot of people will move. And a lot of Adventurers that actually don't leave their brain at home can see there is only 2 people per gate, per train.So I don't think you need a batching system on Vampire.You don't need one on Colossus or Nemesis Inferno. So why Vampire?Also - why on the topic of Vampire - Vampire will not be on 3 trains during Halloween I heard... F**king fantastic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 Vampire can rarely run 3 trains in Halloween though... Remember working on it in 08 when they tried it, and it constantly stopped at the base of the second lift... Plus the constant change in speed and the cold weather affects the chain a lot more, so from a mechanical point of view it could easily not be worth the extra hassle and higher chance of further problems (Indeed, the chain had issues in 08)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 The ride is never running three trains again, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 The ride is never running three trains again, unfortunately. If ever there was a signal that the park need a brand new throughput eating coaster, this is it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 The only problem with batching is a lot of people will move. And a lot of Adventurers that actually don't leave their brain at home can see there is only 2 people per gate, per train.You don't need one on Colossus or Nemesis Inferno. So why Vampire?Cos vampire has an awful system. It could easily be done. Just let through 24 riders from the bottom of the ramp... top it up if people enter the front row queue... spread the numpties who try and go in one bay about... done. It'd help loading so much.But chessie is stupid, and people who haven't done it before don't realise the benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 The only problem with batching is a lot of people will move. And a lot of Adventurers that actually don't leave their brain at home can see there is only 2 people per gate, per train.So I don't think you need a batching system on Vampire.You don't need one on Colossus or Nemesis Inferno. So why Vampire?Also - why on the topic of Vampire - Vampire will not be on 3 trains during Halloween I heard... F**king fantastic...The amount of times I heard on Inferno and Colossus "There is room for two more people on this train, can two people let themselves known" is astonishing. And then the onloader has to end up shouting at the queue in a desperate bid to get people on the ride. Vamp needs it because that station is so long.The ride is never running three trains again, unfortunately.Is that due to cost or health and safety? Shame really because having worked on three train operation, it was a real adrenalie buzz trying to get those trains out quickly and full. Shame that Chessington see fit to cut their highest throughput coaster by a third. Ironically, that makes Runaway Train the highest throughput coaster on park. Tom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 I believe the 'issue' it had a few years back has deemed it too dangerous to continue operating, when the incident was looked into by 'those higher powers'.Unfortunately those people that work for the government were not happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 Death is knocking, Mr Vampire.Right, come on chessie.. get a new significant coaster or two! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul123 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Batching does work on most rides and probably wouldnt bother me if it was introduced on the Vampire all the time, it would stop people clogging up lines when others are empty. this happened to be once, I saw a line empty, but the one next to it must have had about 3-4 groups of 2 people ALL WAITING, I was a bit puzzled at first, but calmly walked into the empty line obviously doing nothing wrong, then a woman waiting in the line next to it started having a go at me saying "what are you doing,there's a line here, Cant you see We're all waiting" So I just calmly replied saying "errrrrrrrr actually love, there are 2 seperate lines here, and this line was empty so I'm doing nothing wrong,You could have queued in this line too you know" she soon shut the hell up after that, was funny, what was weirder was she still continued to queue up and not move over, and then I just gave her a really cheesy smile as I went off in the train(she didnt seem to like that either, LOL) Right, come on chessie.. get a new significant coaster or two!I thought I heard of a rumour of a new family coaster in 2012/13, anyone know more or am I thinking of Legoland?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Batching does work on most rides and probably wouldnt bother me if it was introduced on the Vampire all the time, it would stop people clogging up lines when others are empty. this happened to be once, I saw a line empty, but the one next to it must have had about 3-4 groups of 2 people ALL WAITING, I was a bit puzzled at first, but calmly walked into the empty line obviously doing nothing wrong, then a woman waiting in the line next to it started having a go at me saying "what are you doing,there's a line here, Cant you see We're all waiting" So I just calmly replied saying "errrrrrrrr actually love, there are 2 seperate lines here, and this line was empty so I'm doing nothing wrong,You could have queued in this line too you know" she soon shut the hell up after that, was funny, what was weirder was she still continued to queue up and not move over, and then I just gave her a really cheesy smile as I went off in the train(she didnt seem to like that either, LOL)This happened to me on one of my last visits as well... Sometimes you forget how truly idiotic people can actually be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 All completely solved by having a batcher letting through up to 24 people once the bays are empty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkmad Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Or - just allow people with brains into the station and let them queue where they want after queuing probably a large queue and be done with it? If there are any empty rows - which only really happens in Row Two then the front onloader will get 2. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 God, some people really dont understand efficiency methods or customer service?Don't just presume they'll prefer it, or that its easier and better. It's far better with a bay loader. From a customer service aspect, from a throughput aspect, from a staffs aspect. HAJiME 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkmad Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 When they put a batcher down there earlier on in the year - all the platformers did is complain. As did I. But that is me all over really isn't it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 That's simply because people do not know whats best for them, either that or they're lazy.Get any of you lot up to towers, and you would die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Surely the front offloader should be focused on getting the bars done, rather than finding a two from the queue?Here's what I'd do:- Extend the ramp down to just before the front row queue starts- Have a row batcher stood there- They can ask how many in group/if want to sit at front (if that's even needed, split the ramp into two lanes (there's ENOUGH ROOM) and bingo, don't need to sort that out)- Batcher fills ups at least two trains worth of people in each row- ???- ProfitDone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkmad Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 That's simply because people do not know whats best for them, either that or they're lazy.Get any of you lot up to towers, and you would die.Thank you for that. I know where to go now if I get bored during my shift... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 To add:It's not difficult. Count up to 24 people. Split people up if they decide to go in one row, add more if loads go in front row. You're only on two trains now, it'll be easier than batching tomb blaster as you have more time.Think, this works in same principle as thirteen at towers. God that queue would be hell if that was left to guests to go anywhere (and vampire is hell to queue in the station, its the worst queue system of chessington). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 When they put a batcher down there earlier on in the year - all the platformers did is complain. As did I. But that is me all over really isn't it... I don't give a damn if the platformers don't like it frankly. They are there to do a job, to fill the trains up as much as possible and if they have to be in a position where they actually have to speak to paying guests then so be it.If the park are saving thousands on cannabilising the third train (not to mention operational costs) then the park can do their best to fill the existing trains up. thorpeparkjack and tomglazed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yxz Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 What has happened to the 3rd train? I didn't see it in the station when I went ther yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 3rd train is in pieces on the brake run...Potentially never to be used again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yxz Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Surely it would make sense to keep it in working condition in case one train dies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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