Vinlarr89 Posted Monday at 09:46 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 09:46 PM 21 hours ago, coasterverse said: I was actually thinking just the other day if Hyperia had a different post-breakdown ritual, becuase come to think of it I don't think I've ever (or if I have, it's probably literally only been one train) seen empty trains go round the track after a breakdown. The question of how Thorpe could fix the reliability issue is one that really interests me - LSMs where the trim brackets are is the most obvious answer to me, but I'm not sure how possible that would be to retrofit LSMs into a bracket not intended for LSMs and that's not even taking into consideration the fact that the trains probably aren't capable of utilising LSMs, which would mean yet ANOTHER retrofit which would likely cause a whole other stream of problems. Realistically, shortening the height of the outerbank inversion thing is probably easiest and would have the least amount of moving parts... but also can't really see the park opting for this either. I just reckon it will continue to be operated the way it is at the minute pretty much indefinitely - it's a pain in the arse, but at least it somewhat gets the job done without costing the park any extra money. Why not go the whole hog, take the lift hill down increase the angle by a couple of degrees and add 5-8 ft to the top of it. Should do the trick 😉 All seriousness though, a zero car with a ballast tank built in? Fill it during downtime then empty it before sending first riders around. Seems the cheapest solution. coasterverse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted Tuesday at 09:15 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:15 AM The easiest engineering solution is to add some permanent weights evenly across the trains. Although that would require design checks to see if the structure and trains can deal with the increased forces. It would also increase wear. In the meantime the absolute easiest way to ensure weight is on the trains and spread out without going over the design maximum is fill the train with people. Installing LSMs would be very expensive, mostly getting the power over there and you would basically require new trains. It wouldn't surprise me if adding LSMs comes to a similar cost of reprofiling the outerbank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted Tuesday at 09:45 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:45 AM I wonder if adding weight to the trains would then make them run too fast with the heavier trains + fully loaded with people. Fingers crossed this is less of an issue as it warms up a bit but I’d imagine Merlin / Mack would like a permanent solution to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project LC Posted Tuesday at 10:13 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:13 AM There is certainly a potential for it running too fast if you do add weight to the trains. There will be all sorts of assumptions in the design and safety factors. It depends how conservative they were during design to determine how much weight they could safely add. I think the most realistic solution is to ensure that trains have x amount of guests when dispatching and to provide an easy evacuation plan for when it does inevitably stall with passengers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted Wednesday at 08:09 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:09 AM See they're doing lift hill walks for Hyperia. For £120. And you need to have done a track walk on Colossus, Oblivion or Swarm within 3 years. Seems a bit off to enforce that. Inferno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted Wednesday at 08:59 PM Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:59 PM When the park put out a "register your interest" sign up for Hyperia coaster climbs, the response was huge. I've been made aware that if everyone who responded to that ended up actively choosing to do it, there would be a 4.5 year waiting list. So a mixture of a high price, some form of pre-requirement plus needing an Annual Pass takes the potential load off of needing a waiting list, which would probably have been met with a worst reaction than what's currently happened. Maybe those 3 things were a little unnecessary, maybe the price is a tad too high, but the park put those measures in place to allow a smooth introduction to the VIP extra. I expect that at some point, they'll loosen those prerequisites, and maybe tweak the price (in the mid-term future) so the jump between other climbs and Hyperia's is not quite so steep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster_Contrarian Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago Hyperia's having a fairly bad opening day. Inferno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt 236 Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago Thought I would celebrate the arrival of the 2025 season, by recording and arranging the ride’s theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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