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Year isn't too surprising, would've known the contract was ending and the likelihood of renewal was zero. From the sounds of it they'd got Derren on board after the choice of system & VR inclusion, and probably means a lot of butting heads between those involved in the design. I'd imagine Derren could easily design an interesting attraction at first stage rather than having to work around the system in question. Resulting in the confused final product. I mean they can't do any worse? But if it's going to be actor led again Metlin don't have the best record of the quality or consistency of those.

You'd hope that changing to a Merlin attraction would be done by their big in-house design team (even if they used to charge far more than external contractors for... reasons?) over the in-park entertainment mob. Hopefully consideration for the long term is the big push there. Or at least making things at Thorpe that last slightly more than 2 years before it gets cut to pieces and mothballed.

I read the following on a Facebook Group I belong too “I can confirm cars are back on site, and also can co firm that set pieces from duel will be staying”. The same person confirmed the same ride system and carriages will remain. According to my source the Cars have had a lick of paint and the guns and scoreboards removed. Finally my source said the Spider Scene has been kept. @Trooper Looper I know how passionate you are about The original Haunted House/Duel so I thought I’d share this information. I’m relieved the ride system,arguably the best in the world, will be part of Alton Manor. It’s brilliant that Emily Alton has let the spiders reside in her Dollshouse. The Spiders are amazing. Despite this I bet people with arachnophobia won’t be so pleased. Let’s hope Alton Manor enables the ride system to survive another 30 years. @Trooper Looper do you look forward to seeing the carriages minus the guns and scoreboards?

Thanks @coasterverse - you beat both me to creating the thread, and StevenVig to moaning about an improperly titled thread! I'm impressed and thankful!!