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  1. 13 points
    This whole thing is the biggest joke since Storm Surge and DBGT Year 1
  2. 9 points
    I wonder if anyone at the park has any idea what the park should look like in 10 years time.
  3. 9 points
    Converts one of their few family rides (and a great ride in it's own right) into an age gated scare-a-thon. What a mess...
  4. 8 points
    BaronC.

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    The nitpicking in this thread is unbelievable. Imagine of forums like this were rife in the early SWs... "Europe's first inverted coaster" "but but but what about Vampire, not exactly true!!!!" "The world's first vertical drop coaster" "but but but it's only 88.8 degrees!!!" "The world's first next generation flying coaster" "but but but what does next generation MEAN, there's been lots of other flying coasters!!!" It's the first new woodie in 20+ years. It's something to brag about just a tiny bit, after fans and some of the public have wanted for ages. Better than some forced tagline, or a "so much fire is used we've had to forewarm the local hospital's burns unit just in case..." line. Also, literally everywhere makes their products look better for promotional images, not just theme parks. You going to moan that the Big Mac doesn't look exactly like it does on the board at McDonald's? You going to moan that the buttons on that new shirt you bought aren't as shiny as it was on the retailer's website? In saying that, I'm curious as to how the effects will look in the daylight. They've said they're using effects to give the illusion of fire - I've only ever seen that done in lower level lighting at a particular angle. So it'll be interesting to see how they're going to be setting fire to the Wickerman at all angles in all lighting levels.
  5. 7 points
    It takes some effort to make storm surge look good but this has done it with flying colours. At no other point in thorpes lifetime has the park looked completely directionless.
  6. 7 points
    I have to say that I do think X really was the glue that gave something for the family/younger teenagers to do- so its loss will overall in the long-term hurt the park. I think as a thrill ride X will seriously disappoint, the ride is a small Vekoma family coaster with a fairly tame layout due its constant break runs.. X as a family attraction honestly I think was the best years of its life as it actually had some fun in it.. Okay it wasn't amazing but it filled a huge hole in the lineup and it seemed popular with the public. If they wanted to appeal to the thrill market they could of least maybe installed a new flat where Slammer was? Or maybe give Colossus some new trains? Something that won't be 100% irrelevant in 5 years would of been nice.. When Angry Birds is the best investment to happen in your park in the past 5 years you know you have fu**** things up..
  7. 7 points
    So there’s a 1.4m height restriction once again on a coaster which succeeded these last several years for welcoming those just 1m onto, along with a minimum age restriction that’s technically higher than Saw? I have one word for this and I don’t care how nicely themed it might be: FAIL
  8. 7 points
    I wonder if they're going to announce a X re-theme? Just a wild theory of mine...
  9. 6 points
    Stupid decision to make the only family friendly coaster inaccessible to families. Seriously, what on earth were they drinking when they thought of this?! Thorpe Park is in such a mess, it seems that nobody has any sense of direction for the park and the short term decisions like this show that all too well.
  10. 6 points
    Robert.W

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    We have an image of one of the trains!
  11. 5 points
    What an absolute joke Thorpe Park have become. One bad decision after another with their new investments. The place is a total dump and this new run down addition just tops it off. The amount of money they waste on rubbish temporary attractions like this could have been used to tidy up the decaying park. Thinking back through the years when there was Colossus > Nemesis Inferno > Samurai > Slammer and Rush > Stealth > Saw. They were really heading somewhere and now look. I blame too many young inexperienced managers. Pathetic Thorpe Park !
  12. 5 points
    I'm confused by the confusion over the choice here. I dont agree with the name (pretty poor for a company who can afford to hire a good marketing agency!) but I am in no way surprised. People keep saying about how it is going to lower the child-friendly lineup and this is bad. I dont see whats so bad about this. Merlin have 4 major parks in the UK: Thorpe Park, Legoland, Chessington and Alton Towers. Legoland is mainly for kids (and people who REALLY like lego), Chessington is more aimed at the younger market - and has some very strict planning controls so cannot build the thrill rides that easy, and Alton Towers also has strict controls over building (I know you can dig down, but that costs way more). Which leaves Thorpe, which doesn't have such stringent controls over building of the rides. From a business point of view, why wouldn't you aim to make Thorpe the Thrill park?? Makes sense to me! You have 3 others who are for family; two of which are very close. Also over the apocalyptic theming - Fright Nights is very popular (and I believe might of been one of the only times the Park sold out). Merlin is a business and has to come up with ways of getting people back and adding new things with tightening budgets (like every other business in the UK). Yes there are annual pass holders, but they are guaranteed money for Merlin (you pay for the year, might not pay anymore). They need people to buy day tickets to kick up attendance and sales. Thats why they have to do things like re-theming X to try and get more customers to walk through the door. Due to the success of Fright Nights, the permanent mazes (I.e. dont cost in building or the extra kit/generators to run) are going to be open out side of fright nights. All they have to do is staff them rather than rebuild them or change the configuration of the walkways like during FN - and this is due to the large success of this years fright nights and the reception of the walking dead. I would say always wait until you have ridden the ride before judging it. Merlin is a business - business pay to what makes them money. On another note, if they are opening up more horror/scare attractions during the main season it might make for a change to fright nights (I.e. the more intense version across the park) which can stop it from becoming stale. Just my opinion - no doubt someone will disagree but you have to look at these things objectively. If when ridden you dont like the ride, simply dont go on it. The park will see throughput fall and then force them to change their ways. The direction of Thorpe has always been all over the place, but thats probably down to the change in peoples behaviours and what works for the park. There has always been a slightly disturbing theme with most of the rides there, and I dont think its a bad thing - as where else caters for the scare/horror/adrenaline market in the UK?
  13. 5 points
    "It’s 15 out of ten on the scare scale.” (John Burton, Thorpe Park) Look forward to having a t-shirt with that printed on it in time for Ministry of Sound meet-up
  14. 5 points
    nah "X marks the spot" There bringing back the Treasure island railway They got the island still, got the loco, give children a black spot and take the train to find treasure just need to move timber tug and lumber jump and u can use the station again A actor driven train ride with special effects and high operating costs on a unusual rail based ride system made by Severn lamb or Alan keef will work great I mean its not like they did that 2 years ago in a warehouse ;p cause thats the only think X can mean ;p seriously though its good word play
  15. 5 points
    Ahh yes, abandoned prison: the ride. Or TWDLNESZ for short (The walking dead living nightmare extreme safe zone.)
  16. 4 points
    Another Magic Making visit to the local Junk Yard for 'Theming' then... that's if there's anything left, it's all on park already.
  17. 4 points
    It's a clear indication that the park either have no direction at all or they intend to turn the park into a park full of horror and disaster. The year of the walking dead is hardly a sustainable business model for the park. I'm assuming that's come about by the new director who came from the midway attractions. I don't see it being successful as the IP must have cost a lot and I imagine it will have almost no impact on attendance seeing as the last 2 years has focused on horror and if they didn't visit previously I doubt they will visit now. I might be wrong but I suspect the pulling power of the walking dead isn't too strong anymore. The parks direction is concerning to say the least. Teenagers have no money, family's have no reason to attend. They are spending money on incredibly short term investments. They could easily boost visitor numbers by offering a more upbeat thrill ride aimed at the older families that isn't horror related. Everyone likes something thrilling and entertaining, not everyone likes horror.
  18. 4 points
    The park certainly will have to make everything more intense for Fright Nights, Merlin state this X rebrand is 15 out of 10 on the scare scale. Everything else is gonna seem like a walk down CBeebies land.
  19. 4 points
    pluk

    The Walking Dead: The Ride - New for 2018

    What a mess. They'd finally turned X into something fun and worthwhile that filled height restriction gap in their lineup that desperately needed filling, and have ballsed that work right up by inexplicably bringing us a kiddie coaster with a horror theme. Even if the ride experience itself is actually good (highly doubtful!), it's still an incredibly dumb decision. I wonder if the increased height restriction might also mean the fill every seat rule can be dropped?
  20. 4 points
    Robert.W

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    I completely agree that Alton getting the UK's first wooden coaster in over 20 years is definitely something to brag about... I'm slightly confused as to why many people here are being so negative about it to be honest. I guess some people just like to pick faults, as illustrated perfectly by BaronC. Also, it's okay to say that it's only "a 40 foot one that's mostly tunnels" because fair enough, that's not exactly an impressive coaster on the face of it, but you'd be completely disregarding the fact that a ride much taller is not possible with the planning conditions that Alton has to abide by. As for the ride being mostly tunnels... that's not really true, but they do have a purpose, which is minimising the noise of the ride... or Alton will just get taken to court again by disgruntled locals. What I'm saying is, you're moaning about stuff that is beyond the control of the Resort. They can't change the height or noise limit. But they are trying the best they can to work around these obstacles and still provide a great experience. I think it's time we appreciate that.
  21. 3 points
    If your are confusion, I’m disappointment. Every investment opposes the last one - there’s no direction, no purpose and no hope for Thorpe’s future under Merlin.
  22. 3 points
    Who else is looking forward to "The Walking Dead : The Ride: Rise of the Walkers" for the 2019 season? Also wasn't DBGT, advertised as being the center of the island as well...
  23. 3 points
    If the same height restriction as previous was used for this retheme, along with no minimum age restriction, I would've actually given this a chance to deliver and see what it's like despite being against the whole TWD theme in general. But it's because the park are intentionally going to make this out as their next big thrill machine I have a problem, as this is once again going to lead to false expectations and promises with guests. People naturally are going to think this will be an amazing ride with the OMG ANOTHER WORLD FIRST nonsense when in truth, the coaster just isn't great for the market Thorpe are trying to go for here. Therefore, people are going to be disappointed with it despite having pretty theming and it will be just like Thirteen/DBGT all over again. You know something is clearly very wrong here when Helix with 2 launches, seven inversions, massive airtime and near-60mph speeds has a lower height restriction than this. Changing a ride's height restriction based purely on it's theme is sheer stupidity in my view. This is a massive two fingers up to anyone in the 1m - 1.4m height category.
  24. 3 points
    I'll buy my first ever MAP if there is
  25. 3 points
    Wonder if we'll have a little "The Walking Dead The Ride Shop NOW OPEN" sign outside for a few months a la DBGTROTD.
  26. 3 points
    Funny thing is that's not even concept art, that's an actual picture of Thorpe...
  27. 3 points
    Marc

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    Sneak peek at testing - fire and smoke effects - looking good!
  28. 3 points
    Project LC

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    I think people aren't offering constructive criticism because the layout looks so lackluster and people are so fed up with Merlin's usual nonsense that they just don't care. Meanwhile you have the fanboys raving over the ride claiming it's the best ride to ever be made and swearing blindly that the effects and theme will be stunning when history tells us that is unlikely. It might be a very good ride with a theme that works amazingly well with the ride but I'll believe it when I experience it myself. Although that won't be anytime soon as if I'm traveling north I'll be going to Blackpool.
  29. 3 points
  30. 3 points
    Wumbamillio

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    Merlin definitely understand how stupid people can be
  31. 3 points
    Mark9

    Blackpool Pleasure Beach

    ICON ICON ICON. I Love that we're finally getting a proper Mack ride.
  32. 2 points
    Personally, I’m actually quite exited for this because I was quite bored of X recently. My last few rides were pretty dull and it felt like it needed much more to enhance the experience (I know I used to say force>theming but over the years that has become more balanced). I highly understand why people aren’t a fan of this and I do see the huge flaws in their decision. But like many others here, I’m in their target audience and I judge a park from my point of view based on how much I enjoy it, not how other people will enjoy it.
  33. 2 points
    The press event for the ride will be on the evening of Thursday 29th March, so presumably the ride will be opening on Friday 30th in time for the Easter holidays. I have mixed feelings about this ride. I am intrigued to see what the ride is going to be like and whether it will be good or not. I do hope that it is actually scary. I don't mind The Walking Dead theme but I hope that this wasn't a last minute, rushed project like Sanctum clearly was. I also think it was a bad decision to remove X. It was the perfect ride for the younger thrill-seekers who don't want to go on the kid rides, but aren't tall enough to go on the major thrill rides. There isn't much for them to do anymore...
  34. 2 points
    You make the Fish sad.
  35. 2 points
    TallGuyDom

    New for 2018 - Tiger Rock

    Have you considered from a Marketing perspective, maybe the Worlds first is what's needed to get an article within the Daily Mail, and to build up some excitement around the attraction. If I had a zoo with a USP I would want to shout about it and I am really looking forward to the expansion! Some other examples include: Six Flags: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH4ThJn8HEk Europa Park: https://www.europapark.de/en/food-drink/foodloop-first-looping-restaurant-worldwide
  36. 2 points
    Mark9

    Blackpool Pleasure Beach

    It's not really, a lot of its really important, significant rides are Grade 1 listed so will never leave. Wild Mouse was obviously a shame, it's never coming back though and I don't see much point holding onto that and saying it time and time again. Considering how much effort they've gone to with Icon to have it weave its way through rides like Steeplechase says to me they intend to keep them for the long term.
  37. 2 points
    Mega-Lite

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    I'll mirror the "it won't look that good in person, or good at all for long" and raise you a "it's a shame what's travelling through said structure will be underwhelming".
  38. 2 points
    See you there!!! Ride mad and have a Merlin Annual pass!! Ok if I vlog for my channel
  39. 2 points
    Coaster

    Next Roller Coaster

    The last thing Thorpe needs is another horror or dull/drab theme.
  40. 2 points
    Similar thing was done with Rise of the Demon around this time last year. Personally, I'm not sure how effective this type of marketing is, but nice to see Thorpe experimenting more I guess. Doesn't really help that people are either disinterested at this stage, or just don't know what's going on.
  41. 2 points
    Kerfuffle

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    It is fair when they get excited about an attraction with "world's first" plastered all over it.
  42. 2 points
    Zappomatic

    Port Aventura

    Just a heads up that British Airways have some cheap off-season deals for PortAventura at the moment: flights from Heathrow to Barcelona including luggage, and 3 nights half board at the Hotel PortAventura with park access and 1 day Ferrari Land ticket for £245 based on 2 sharing or £229 based on 4, departing 1 October. Adding a day adds about £60. I've managed to book so that I fly out to Barcelona on the Friday before and stay 3 nights before heading to PortAventura for 3 nights there, total cost £385 per person (plus €8.80 train fare to get from Barcelona to PortAventura, and €16 coach from PortAventura to Barcelona airport).
  43. 2 points
    JoshuaA

    Blackpool Pleasure Beach

    That airtime hill at the start looks incredibly fun. With the Mack restraints that could easily be the best airtime moment in the UK.
  44. 2 points
    Mark9

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    Everyones decided it's rubbish so stop with your fake opinions and optimism.
  45. 1 point
    Gutted. My little boy loves X, one of the few rides there he could go on. He's 9 and under 1.4, and even if he was tall enough, the theme would scare the life out of him :-(
  46. 1 point
    Mark9

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

  47. 1 point
    BaronC.

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    But when some are going to the level of rolling their eyes at the 'first woodie in 20+ years' or saying it's not true because one was rebuilt, it is that level. It's a clear, legitimate fact which will capture people's attention. Why shouldn't they use that, regardless of how it looks? I get why people have concerns, and I share a few of them myself. My biggest one still remains about are we getting another Th13teen, in that people will expect too much and be disappointed. Because if they are, it'll bring success for one year, then leave a lull for a year or two where people don't bother with the park, which is the last thing Towers or Merlin want. Who knows, but we'll see. As Robert.W said, it's been mentioned on other forums that the effects are planned to be looked after by the same team who build and maintain the Scarefest attractions. Assuming they've got enough resources, this means there's a better chance they'll be operational more often, and takes the pressure off the engineers (who would normally do it). Fortunately that hype hasn't spilled over here as much. But it's crazy how people hear one person (who's probably staff at the park anyway) say 'it's got more airtime than Wodan' or 'it's the best thing since sliced bread', believe them and then set expectations higher than the moon...
  48. 1 point
    Mega-Lite

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    Then been given a 40 foot high one, that's mostly tunnels. I'm more than willing to eat my words if this thing is great, but I really can't see it being that. Don't be so over the top... Members pointing out that perhaps those photos were doctored and/or taken in situations you may never see in the park, isn't even slightly comparable to that rubbish.
  49. 1 point
    Robert.W

    Wicker Man - New for 2018

    In all fairness, the Wicker Man structure itself will look quite spectacular without all these extra effects that are for creating the promotional material. Another thing to consider is how effective these effects would actually be during the daylight. The smoke may be somewhat effective, but there certainly won't be as much as there is in these pictures, and that is if there is going to be any at all! The level of smoke effects in the promotional pictures looks as if it'd make capturing the on ride photos rather difficult. As for lighting, I'm pretty sure that would be completely pointless during the day as it would only create minimal, if any visual effect whatsoever. I think in real life, the thing that will create the biggest impact is likely going to be the sheer scale of the Wicker Man structure, and hopefully it won't need too many extra effects to really create an impression on guests at the park.
  50. 1 point
    TPC

    Unpopular Opinions

    Saw is a bit rough, but is it really as rough as everyone makes it out to be? To be honest, I found it just as rattley as inferno and the swarm nearer the back of the train. If anything, it adds to the theme of torture. Trust me, I've done a lot rougher rides. Wild Maus XXL was painful, Stampida red made me feel like I was about to die and dragon khan simply is rough, no question or doubt!
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