Marc

Sorry but I'm not sure I agree, summer nights were just as quiet in 2014 - if not quieter when it was only Summer Nights without Island Beats attached. As for them announcing it after the MAP sale, The TP website has for a good couple of months had this years events on there.

I really don't see how tickets were confusing? If you wanted summer nights you bought a summer nights ticket, if you wanted island beats you bought an islands beat ticket. It was also free for premium pass holders making it even easier. As for guest satisfaction id guess if anything the event ran at a loss many of the nights when there were barely anyone there, which is why they will be scrapped

I'm sure its more the picture than the track - and if it is I doubt it will open like that!

as much as they were fun - I don't think sending around trains with 2/3 people most nights (bar 3/4 maybe) can ever been seen as a sucsess. When cuts are being made its things like this which will obviously be affected unfortunately. For some reason our culture / late night theme parks just don't work, I remember back in 2006 when it was open till 10 throughout summer, the park was rammed in the day but gone 7 it was totally dead.

They could use HTC Vive which is what DBGT will use which also has cameras enabling you to walk whilst still experiencing VR

Personally doubt it's wide spread enough knowledge to really made a difference- maybe more to towers passes though

Of course they could be bored and this all be one massive troll!

http://www.thorpeparkmania.co.uk/news/29-01-2016/Speculation-Swarm-To-Run-Forwards Speculation at the moment but the signs are all pointing that way!

I'm not sure if I buy the "they are unpopular" line often thrown round. In 2012 when saw alive was closed it was closed because it's an easy thing to cut when the entire park was sturuggling - 'not because saw alive was unpopular.

They have escape rooms all year round across the country... They obviously received good feedback during fright nights which is why they are bringing it back. I honestly don't see why anyone could be against them bringing an attraction to the park, if it's of no Intrest ten don't go through it!

^Glad I'm not the only one heard this has gone up to £40. They are certainly trying with this one hopefully it pays of!

I think its hard to judge what Merlin can do here - this is as far as I can think Merlins first big budget dark ride, the theming what we've seen so far looks good and of course the majority of it will be within the building.

Thorpe park gives us some of the best theming we've seen in the U.K. In a long long time and people moan. I think it's important to remember Thorpe are not trying to rival Harry Potter land in Orlando here... And most dark rides have a bad angle to look at them from!

Yeah they are - they tweeted a link to this video earlier saying it was part of the theme too!

I take it your thinking Saw the ride here - one of Merlins most successful investments?

We've been asking for a dark ride for years - theres no reason Merlin cant pull this off and am really excited to see how this turns out - even more so after the announcements today.

It would be quite crazy to put a date on it this early. Best to ensure they know 100% before committing to a date.

Whilst it may have got out a little earlier than expected - the full press release is now up: http://www.thorpeparkmania.co.uk/news/18-01-2016/Derren-Browns-Ghost-Train-Revealed

Going off topic here - can you tell me how they have ruined a coaster by adding an optional VR headset? Also what kind of market research have you performed to back up your claims that this will not be well received?

And slammer, rush, Stealth, depth charge, spinball, vortex but we will ignore that to make Merlin out as terrible!

I hope you never have aspirations to work in Marketing. What do you expect them to say? Come visit Alton Towers and ride Air, its not very different but you have VR googles now... They are making a multi million pound investment, with the goggles on it will be a totally different experience and they are right to sell it as a new attraction.

Station amendments / Building work , Content for VR, Theming, Marketing - it all adds up!

Pretty sure the top comes off every other year! I think one year the tops of the supporting arms were taken off too.

I think it's probably wrong to assume loggers is closed due to how it's been treated, if there was any issues with the ride it's self it would of closed last year and not ran till the end of the season.

Now all we need is a yellow pipe and I guess we can call it themed? Seriously though we are still atleast 3 months from it being open I think nows a bit early to judge the exterior.