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I must be in the minority who likes Hollywood Tours. I know it's dated and sticks out like a sore thumb compared to their recent dark rides, and I won't be sad when it bites the dust, but it's at least easy to enjoy. The China dark rides and Nighthawk are poor all round though. Phantasialand have invested brilliantly though in the past few years. Chuck out the deadwood, and improve operations a bit, and it'll unquestionably be up there as one of the best places to blend quality rides for everyone and quality theming into one.

Assuming I'm not working I'll go. I'll only go to WW for Olympia Looping and then leave. May have to sell an organ to afford it though.

Much like Costa's drinks, the above post needs more sauce... Presumably this is more about promotional offers and stuff, as opposed to Merlin bringing Costa places into their parks.

The FAQ page of Thorpe's website has been updated: "Opened in 1989, Loggers Leap has been a firm favourite amongst families and young adults. As a result of many years of operation, Loggers Leap is out of action for 2016 while it’s being renovated. This was a difficult decision to make, however we hope for it to make a splash-back in the future." https://www.thorpepark.com/faqs/ It is worth remembering at no point did the website, park map or signs on park suggest it would definitely open in 2017.

I always find these sorts of points very interesting. 3 hour long queues sound ridiculous, yes. But what I think people sometimes forget is that people are prepared and willing to wait that period of time. I witnessed staff at Platform 15 say to guests how it was expected to be up to a 3 hour long queue, and that the queue would be shorter later on, yet people just shrugged at the idea and joined the queue. It's hard to blame Thorpe if there simply are hundreds / thousands of people who will see a 2+ hour long queue and just accept it. I'm not saying that the length of the queues shouldn't be addressed of course, but one of the reasons why queues are so long are because people are willing to wait, since they believe they'd get a quality product at the end of it.

At the same time, they should replace Rattlesnake with a wild mouse.

Nothing really to worry about. It's much like what happened at Paulton's with Edge and Cobra, or Plopsaland with their noise thing - someone in the local authority has seen that there was some issues with the paperwork and raised the issue. Unfortunately in this situation, it does require the ride to close, but people will always look at the worst-case scenario first. Obviously a shake and inconvenient for the park and anyone visiting in the immediate future, but it'll reopen I'm sure!

Forgive the sarcasm, but when you post about a "glaring detail" in the plans which could possibly add more details to the thread, and are laughing that it's not been mentioned, and then fail to mention that said detail is, it feels more like you're trying to get a one up on others, as opposed to actually contributing... Ta-da... (Thanks to TTP) 3 crossed boxes.

The "I know something but I'm not going to say" game...Yay...

I see nothing wrong with the above conversation.

This thread is the breast.

My reviews from 2014 and 2012 can be found by following this link: They seemed to have a change of direction and more money pumped into the event last, and from I've heard, things have only gotten better. Blackout was also nominated for the Best Scare Attraction SCAR Award in 2014-5, so they have potential to make great attractions. Don't go on expecting the best things ever, but it's a fun event to go to!

Saw's advertised max g-force is +4.7G. Like Benin says, could spike at 5G on occasions quite easily.

Walibi Belgium announced yesterday that their ferris wheel will be closing at the end of season. The ride and surrounding area will be developed for a new ride, which will probably open in 2018. As mentioned previously, the park had several issues in the past with locals / planning permission. But it seems that there is a light at the end of a very long tunnel for them, and I'm interested to see what they go for...

This is the sort of thing where a source is required as much as the quote... They're really dragging out saying that Gruffalo is replacing the Bubbleworks. Already beyond tedious.

The plans suggest that the building is being extended to build a new shop. Which would suggest that the current space occupied by the shop will no longer be used for a shop. Thus leaving a massive gap between the end of the experience as it stands and the new shop, meaning that the addition of something else isn't too far fetched of an idea.

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"My personal favourite is phobophobia...the fear of fear itself"

Cian's point, as I read it, was saying it's embarrassing that they're modifying the attraction's experience to presumably maintain public interest. It's unfair to say that when we don't know what they're doing to the attraction, or even why. If you feel the attraction's current state is embarrassing, then that's an opinion you can form fairly on your experiences. But to say it's embarrassing that they're making modifications, at this stage, has no basis. Equally, no one can fairly say this is something that should be taken pride in (or whatever the most appropriate opposite of embarrassment is in the situation) at the moment.

Many dark rides undergo modifications after they first open. Admittedly it's more changing the sequence of things, or just adding extra things, but it's not uncommon. When we have no idea what this extension is bringing us, it's certainly unfair to call this embarrassing in my opinion. In saying that, it's an...interesting development. Especially since it seems to suggest that this extension will be to build a new shop to replace the old, as opposed to an extension to the shop itself. Once again, this attraction has made me curious...

This is the sort of comment where a suggestion of an alternative would also be good. I don't disagree with you per se, but to anyone who has never experienced these sorts of days, some of the behaviour you witness and experience can be described as disturbing to be honest. Days where large numbers traveller community are at parks are common, and preparations are made by the parks to help minimise disruption to everyone's day. (Was writing this post as Marc posted)

I would strongly recommend prebooking tickets for Containment; there is no guarantee that tickets will be avaliable on the day!

The saying of things that one doesn't like.

^Oooh, would be interested to hear a review of The Final Cut if you can do one! House of Insomnia by Twisted Attractions in 2014 for me stands out. A fantastically themed attraction from start to finish. But it assaulted the senses too - every scene had a distinct smell, there was a freezer room that was very cold, a furnace room that was very hot, etc. Decent length, and just all round brilliance. The ending was a chainsaw chase, but not the best one, and the beginning scene needed louder audio, but that is about the only negatives! I also loved Studio 13 and Se7en (in its final year). Studio really got me engrossed in the story line and it worked so well, and Se7en was just a fab experience.