Everything posted by JoshC.
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Chessington General Discussion
Ta. :blink:Though I think it's only Hotel guests allowed in Wild Asia...
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Feedback of the Site
Right, sorry for late reply, been having poor internet connection on my laptop recently.... Fair play. However, when a site is aimed primarily towards fans, then surely it should be ignoring the GP to an extent? In my eyes, it doesn't do both. I see informing as being non-judgemental in all ways, yet by giving direct links, it's a sure form of advertising. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for promoting parks and the industry, but there's a rather fine line between actually promoting these parks in a way that doesn't fall into just plain advertising them...And whilst I don't disagree it all starts from somewhere, I can only see a very small majority of people who are purely from the GP (who, as you say, some of the articles are partially aimed towards) turning into hardcore fans. I'd go as far to, riskily, say that the articles are actually damaging the forum, with a high amount of members who post for a few days then leave, ruining the aim of the forum - to create a community and a place for the like-minded to discuss... Again, I'm going to say how this is a fansite. No matter how many people visit the site, it shouldn't lose it's aim just to conform towards the public. I'm fine for a short paragraph giving something that would appeal to the GP, but most of the articles should be geared towards those who are actually going to discuss things further - the fans of this very forum. Mikey said about the articles allowing for debate and discussion on the forum from the articles, but I'd disagree personally, and sometimes see there being 'not enough meat on the bones' for fans to go from, leaving to silly and superfluous discussions, or just no discussions at all...
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Chessington General Discussion
Rather noobish question from to be honest...Park opens at 10, but does Explorer Gate open half hour before then?
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Whilst I don't disagree with you, isn't half the point of a forum to create a community?Yeah, okay, so Gemma doesn't post theme park related posts, but she's still part of the forum's community. And if a forum doesn't have a community, then what is the point?
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Rant
This.The amount of times when friends and teachers assumed I was going out with a girl when we were friends was silly.Slightly ironic, we barely speak to each other now after a boy/girlfriend type argument...
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Feedback of the Site
So... you're saying the articles a wrote to appeal to fans and the GP? But isn't the whole point of a FANsite to appeal to just the fans? Exactly, it helps purchase tickets, as it is ADVERTISING the event. It isn't informing of the event, it is selling it. That's the whole point I'm getting at...
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Feedback of the Site
No real point to writing them? Isn't the point of the articles meant to be to inform readers of what is going on? I'm pretty sure you could easily write articles that includes the 'personal' touch that TPM wants, as well as informer readers of what is going on, without advertising the park, or using similar techniques to the park.As for not being since the official link, I honestly do not know, as I didn't really become interested in this site until it got the official link. As for insane, yes, it is solely a marketing word. However, words such as 'thrilling', 'extreme' and 'insane' have regularly been used by the site in the produced articles. Those words stood out to me when skimming through random articles. And, for example, the Sun Scream article uses the word 'extreme' 5 times, all of which is used to promote the attractions that the park is offering. And, perhaps coincidentally, the park would use the word 'extreme' a similar amount of times in articles of a similar size that would be released to the GP. It is very frustrating how the two seem so alike and this place has turned into a marketing tool - be that accidental or not!
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Feedback of the Site
Me with a(nother) moan...The site itself has slowly turned into an advertising tool for Thorpe - and I personally think it's stupid. I understand the site isn't independent and that, but is there a need for this place to become Thorpe's second marketing mouth?Let's have a look at part of the most recent story, about Sun Scream: Why the need to say "extreme rides"? Marketing spew, isn't it? And why exactly should a fan site, official to the park or not, be convincing us to go to the park? No other site I know of persuades people to go to parks in their articles. And let's go to some a few months back, such as Peter Andre: The need for a direct link is? And yet again, 'thrilling' is there why? Oh yes, marketing the park, how could I forget!?I've lost count as to how many times I've seen words such as "insane" and other marketing-related words.As said, I've tired of it. We've been reassured many a time that the park are in no way associated with writing the articles, so why does it sound like they are writing them!? Think that's all..Josh.
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Claim to fame?
For anyone who watched Robot Wars, you may remember a Robot known as Dantomkia (Dantomkia's Wikia Page). For those too lazy to check, it was one of the better Robots, famously flipping Chaos 2 out of the arena, as well as other famous Robots such as Panic Attack. It holds the record for most Robots flipped out of the arena, as well as the second fastest victory (8 seconds). I know the creators of the Robot, and also drove it a couple of times in practice fights, which is epicly good fun might I add.
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SAW: Alive
It would have made the attraction much better yes. And it would have pleased so many.However, they get two attractions out of it, plus much more marketing from it. From the park's view, they have done everything right. It is a shame, I do admit, but it is something that we unfortunately can't help. :/
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SAW: Alive
Firstly, great read, thanks for that.However, for Thorpe Park, it is far to unrealisitic.Firstly, the maze has to appeal to everyone. Your ideas focus too much on the specific details that only die hard Saw fans will care about. As it is, everyone can relate to the maze if they know the concept of the film. Secondly, the budget. They could not fit all that in unless it was a major investment.Finally, the boat would sink. 41 tonnes it already is; 45 maximum. Sorry, brilliant ideas but not for Thorpe.
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SAW: Alive
Mhmm. An interview with Haunted Attractions did say that they could add another room, but I don't know how exactly it could work out.
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X-est
That's why I hate to ask. But I can never believe someone who says their sure, when they have nothing to back it up - especially in this industry..
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X-est
Not mentioned anywhere on their site...How are you so sure it is a prototype...
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X-est
Hate to ask, but any sources you can provide from Gerstlauer to prove this?
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X-est
That doesn't make it a prototype. Just really makes it a upgrade / newer version; Eurofighter V1.1 if you will.Ste, though I don't disagree, Thorpe have SO much more compared to others.Also, Marc, you say that Thorpe use complicated technology. Inferno's pre lift is nothing more than a design. Rush and Slammer were nothing more than upgrades to previous versions, at best. And yet AT use much more complicated technology; look at Th13teen for example..As for the blutooth technology amd stuff, it's not THAT complicated compared to ride systems, is it?Agreed with Benin; no ride at Thorpe is a prototype.
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X-est
But the point I originally made was if Oakwood had the same marketing and investment as Thorpe, it would be a challenger towards Thorpe, due to it's blend of simple rides and the attention grabbing ones.And I wouldn't be surprised if Saw (or whatever it'd be called) did run on one car with no queue IF Thorpe had the same investment and advertising as Thorpe.In no way did I directly compare Thorpe ad Oakwood, I made a hypothetical comparison...
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X-est
I don't question that it advanced the park and increased the popularity. I agree and understand that. However, why does EVERY OTHER ride have to be these huge attention grabbing rides? Other parks have a much more balanced ride count, with a couple ATTENTION GRABBING rides, and then these simple rides dotted around.
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X-est
Neither and a bit of both at the same time.I'm worried that the park are blinding themselves in getting these Firsts and these X-est rides, that they could slowly forget the 'simple' option is the best. By all means the park could still introduce rides with record breaking features, but I'm afraid they're more focusing on getting the record than the ride.By all means the park could advertise these records. But look at Th13teen. That is more being advertised as The Ultimate Coaster now (I think). Granted, I hate that, but in the world of marleting, I'd prefer that to thrusting a World First in mind again.
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The Blue Barnacle (Previously Black Buccaneer)
That's a bit of an U-turn in ruling, isn't it?