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I think its 16 but they get funny hours and restrictions ect. 18 is when you can have the "full on" job.
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They also do it on nemesis inferno as well because they run out of time. They should have got some time back in their schedule because they no longer need to get slammer working by 9:30 anymore. The engineers schedule is to have all rides open on full capacity by 10 (except slammer which is now 11) however as the park now opens at 9:15 they sometimes have to skip the 2nd train first time round.
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Its to do with the engineers schedule. More often than not they have to move on without the 2nd train loaded and return later to add it back on.
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I more meant swarm goes to waste on a normal day with or withour RnR. The queue always drops later on in the day by quite a lot which means the queue is no longer holding 1200 people so they go else where making the queues longer for the other coasters. I dont think anyday can be as busy to only get 3-5 coasters done. The only way that could happen is if everyone in the park queued for the coasters at the same time. Which thanks to RnR they now are. Its no longer around 8000 people divided up among the coasters its the full 15000. It makes all of the RnR queues longer than what a physical queue would be and because thorpe are unable to change the laws of time means you cant get as many coasters in. You can tell me what you like but that is a fact.
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An average guest which didn't start their day at swarm wouldn't be. Whats the point in making everyone have 4 or 5 when before a lot of people were getting over that. I highly doubt this system will ever solve their problems and I'm certain there are better solutions. One major problem they have is that once people ride swarm they never return, everyday I have been to Thorpe swarm always has short queues after lunch. So effectively you have 1200pph coaster going to waste because of its location. I honestly believe that 80% of the problems related to queuing could be solved by getting the tvs working and showing interesting stuff. Games, music, facts and useful tips. They could stick their own advertisement on it for annual passes or whatever. Getting some tvs installed/working must be a lot cheaper than all this RnR stuff and would improve the experience for guests so they are more likely to return. The simplest ideas are the best ideas. .
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I know Thorpe will try and deny that but I'm pretty sure that is what is already happening with the trails. Something I would like to know is if Thorpe looked at the spectacular failure of Disney's system, which one ruined the experience and two didn't solve anything. There really is so many things they should have tried before RnR. I guess my days of multiple rides on stealth are over and are instead being replaced with 4 or 5 coasters in a day and being forced to queue for a load of flats I don't want to ride. I am so glad I didn't buy a VIP pass as what a waste of money that would have been.
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We had around 80% of visitors in the Resort using the system over the weekend actually, and the system was the only way to ride Colossus and SAW - The Ride on Monday and Tuesday.
How many were using it the morning? I'm willing to put money on it that you only got 80% in the afternoon. Also whats the point in only trailing it fully on saw and Colossus if you dont have the rest set up in that way. You may see minor effects but your not going to see the full effects. Also saw has been at 2 hours or above throughout the trail with points on saturday being 3 hours 30 minutes. In what way is that better than before? That could limit the number of coasters you are able to go on to 3 in the space of 9 hours. Also a point which may have been considered but doubt it a lot is if you reserve a ride for 20 minutes and the shortest physical queue in the park is 40 minutes what do you do in that time. Its a theme park where people are to ride rides, they will not go shopping I'm pretty sure they will just wait outside which defeats the entire objective.
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Before buying a fastrack please do the maths behind it. There is no way a fastrack gold would ever be worth it.
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They could just improve the queue lines. If they got the TV's working then they could introduce games, show off a few facts about the rides and maybe play music videos. You would only need about a 6 hour cycle and I'm sure it would make guests happier. It certainly made the queues at cedar point fun. I think cedar point called it Fun TV and it made the whole experience far more enjoyable. Instead of repeating the same news story over and over for hours on end they could make the place interesting and distract the people in the park from the fact they are queuing. There is so many other things Thorpe could have and should have tried before investing in RnR.
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Personally I prefer zumanjaro, its got the force of detonator but lasts so much longer.
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Not only more rides they could just open longer. Stay open until 10 in the summer, offer cheaper tickets if you enter the park after 4. Now you can make more money and people will be able to get on everything. They do it in every other country I don't see why it wont work in the UK. The main reason this is getting good feedback is for the exact reason Fred gave. No one knows about it so no one is using it so the queues virtually are shorter than the real thing (Except Saturday afternoon). My general consensus is that the majority of people in this thread are against the idea and I would be inclined to say that the people in this thread will give a much more detailed and more accurate feedback.
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Rush uses pneumatics not hydraulics and it is pretty much a noise isolated to rush as skyhawk is almost silent. If you think Nemesis has a roar you need to hear mantis. That ride can be heard from miles away. Another great sound is stealth launching with no one on it or when it enters the brake fins.
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You cant really get accurate feedback unless you test it in the conditions it is going to be used in. For example yesterdays test may as well be irrelevant as no one was in the park anyway. They would have all said it was fantastic with or without the system. The best way to get feedback is to not ask them directly as they are going to be kind. They will tell you it is good regardless of their actual opinion. If a virtual wait for saw in the summer is going to be around 3 hours then many just wont visit. It means that 1/3rd of their day is spent waiting for saw. The chances of those people finding a way to spend those 3 hours perfectly isn't going to happen. What was once 30minutes for rush 45 minutes for loggers and 90 minutes for saw is now 50 minutes for rush 70 for loggers spend remaining time waiting for rnr to finish as no queue is the length they are after. Then finally get on saw after the 3 hour wait. It works out exactly the same or slightly worse as they cant join a queue if it is going to clash. Yes you can tell me there is a lot of good feedback but what is that relative to? A first time visitor cant tell you its better than before. A 2nd time visitor cant tell you either because it is completely dependent on their previous visit. The only accurate feedback you are going to get is from visitors which go there often. I would strongly advise looking at the feedback from annual pass holders in more detail as I imagine they will give a more accurate picture.
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I thought s&s were fine as are they not making the polercoasters? I may be mistaken. The restraints moving up a notch is something to do with the system S&S use. I'm not entirely sure how theres works but I imagine it is caused by the system thinking it has locked when really its stuck between positions. Could be completely wrong though.
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You are telling me that swarm has paid attention to the small details? Is that why there is a billboard next to a church and a crashed helicopter? Disney have lots to learn from swarm island.
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Asylum was going to be retired anyway. It got hate for years and thorpe just ignored it as it was popular.
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That is merlin's solution to everything. first its we well tell the relevant manager and then if you are not pleased with that its here is a free fastrack. That is not guest services that's just paying people to go away.
SAW: The Ride
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Has saws 10 oclock break down returned? Last year every time I went saw would break down at 10 oclock exactly.