Mark9

You bore me with your pro Disney bias

What would you do if you were in Thorpe's shoes?

http://www.chessington.com/plan-your-trip/events.aspx?tabname=july Any ideas on what they might do?

Not if people are being made redundant because of it, not so funny then.

I don't think you can come up with a solution for mindless stupidity.

Fire away. Firstly, we could go down Adam's way of survival of the fittest. Secondly we could do what Josh says close the ride for the whole of easter. Thirdly we could ban Thorpe's target audience from the ride. Thorpe will not win whatever happens and the only good thing we can take out of it is that it is a temporary situation and once Thorpe have sorted out whatever the issue is, the restriction will be lifted. It is discrimination. However as people on every coaster forum, including TPM says "Thorpe is full of young chavs/pikeys/idiots." They can't just pretend nothing happened whatsoever and run the ride as normal and they've attempted to piss off the least amount of people they can (twice) and still look like they are tackling the issue.

Gosh, the critisim here is quite bad. A few pointers. 1. The Speed. If you've ever seen an empty Swarm or Raptor train go through its circuit, it practically crawls at the same pace as X-Flight does. It's when you add the people and the theme to the trains that it starts to go at pace. 2. The Theme. Who cares if it unthemed. Outside of the station, Wild Eagle is as unthemed as anything and that has had heaps of praise put upon it. This is Six Flags, they don't necessarily have to theme their rides obsessively because they don't describe themselves as a theme park. The lighthouse will go in, if we're going to attack things when the ride itself isn't finished, then why don't we go after Swarm and its lack of LED's and fire effects too. 3. How busy is this park compared to say Gardaland, Thorpe Park and Dollywood. I've got no idea but I find it rather laughable that this is actually getting criticised for having an extra row, to you know, get extra bums on seats and to reduce the queuing time (although, thats as long as both trains are on it )

Rumba is now available to young families and older adult groups. Sorry teenagers, no Rumba for you still.

So, now you are saying they should move a ride thats already well past its sell by date, a 15 year old attraction with numerous issues, because Chessington has a family target audience. Now, I don't know about you, but I've been to Gardaland, I've been to Parque Warner Madrid and I've been to funfairs, all having top spins and all three rides are incredibly unpopular. Rameses is unpopular, Ripsaw can muster ten minute queues when Air is an hour and Nemesis is 25 minutes. We're talking about a ride that like Slammer, has good visual appeal but does not invite riders in easily. See, you hit the point here. As I've said Rameses is a great visual ride. What everyone seems to be suggesting is put it inside so you can't see what it does and that gives it atmosphere. So we're now heading into X: No Way Out territory. Doing this, requires far more space then just plonking a top spin on the Fungle Safari site. Because if you want to make it an atmospheric indoor ride, the queue ideally needs to be inside, the building needs to have lots of space to accomodate maybe animatronics, story scenes like Hex for pre shows. And then the ride itself which if we go down the giant top spin route like you suggested means we have a huge ride which is just like a normal top spin but takes longer to load and is 0/1% more effective. I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall here when I ask for someone to give me a logical reason why Thorpe needs a top spin. Everyone seems to avoid the issue that park run top spins are pretty shoddy and goes to talk about effects and giant top spins and Talocan.

It helps if your opinions hold credibility. Adding a top spin with some lights is hardly revolutionary in a park that is striving to be the best out there. Neither is adding a giant top spin when the things have already proved to be unreliable and unnecessarily large for their lack of popularity. So far, no one has really given a good enough reason for Thorpe Park to get a top spin, particularly as there's one down the road already. If you suggest a good enough excuse for Thorpe to add a tired, old ride concept, then I am all ears but so far apart from dressing mutton up as lamb, Thorpe really don't need one.

Bit confused by this. The Second MCBR has a trim break and will always slow down the car.

Why not get a breakdance, a huss pirate ship and a vekoma corkscrew whilst we are at it if we plan to purge the 80's and 90's for all their worth.

So on my last trip to Alton I noticed something... something perculiar. People love Thirteen. They really truely do. When you ride with the public everyone is just laughing with joy and its actually rather intoxicating that after a 50 minute queue, people still enjoy it. Thank god that two years later, after all that horrible hype had gone, people are really into Thirteen. It's great to see and for me makes the ride.

My friend at work told me that Swarm was (rhymes with pit). I naturally killed them and their family.

Our newest member, The Swarm, is beautiful. Oh and you guys on the ride are too (not including me obvs)

Thats just an image from the future, showing someones spine after riding SW7.

£9.00 is okay. £6.50 at Pizza/Pasta is even better.

and it's in Spain and it has two B&Ms and it has a rapids ride and it has Three A's in its name. Oh and a P!

Not that I don't believe you Rob.. but I just believe Mr Rabbit more.

Just a little bit concerned that a park that killed someone a few weeks back is opening an Intamin ride.

It certainly got us wet through the ride alone on my last ride..

Thing is are we saying every time the park gets busy, they'll ban 90% of the guests who go. I really can't see how the park can do anything to change the nature of the ride. You go with seatbelts, they can be undone, you stop the turntable to allow guests on like at rainbow magicland, you severely cripple the throughput. You ban anyone without a child which is actually quite discriminationary, the park then looks to be stopping accidents by stopping anyone riding... At all.

I quite agree that we should get a Diving Machine clone at Thorpe though.

As long as chessington gets the gate figures and gets in the people it isn't dead. It doesn't invest, that is true but if people visit and spend money then thats all Merlin ultimately care about