James6 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 See, whilst I'd have loved for the ride to be longer, it's still a LOT longer than most rides, especially in this country. And that is part of what gives it such a ferocious pace, I do think the coaster section could have been longer but it wouldn't have added a huge amount to the ride.And also where was the theming poor? In my opinion, what is there is great, there's just not a huge amount. Although as MikeyT has pointed out, the black cloth is simply embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeby-vuit Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 did you notice how the theming outside above the station is incorrect, because if you built the walls up, it wouldn't work against the exterior of the tower...! I'm trying to create a mock up from a picture I took on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Kid Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 My problem with the theming is its completely uninvolved with the queue untill the station. The ride is barely involved with any theming ether. The ride is rather confusing. Its great having a crypt (or a old building, as you don't actually see the crypt!), but they gave it no meaning, so therefore you will not be nervous nor happy or show any emotion when greeted by it. You see the wraiths. Are they evil? Are they angels? Monks? Dead/Ghosts? Are they saving you from something or trying to kill you? Etc. They need to put each feature into context. Oh and you can see the shed out the back! A big grey box poping out the back of a themed front... yeah ok. Fine. Oh and also the evacuation point signs? Haha. Full-on Theme Parks are ment to be like walking into a film set. I don't expect to see a lighting rig or a studio poping into shot. I expect the plot/story to be explained in some sort of convention. It doesn't need to be blared in your face, but with suttle hints or objects. I personally feel this ride would of worked better if you had the crypt first. You would of instantly felt as if you were in danger falling into the crypt. By itself, seeing the wraiths there and then may inply that they are dangerous after the anticipation and fear created by the drop. Riders would of been more aware and have the expectation that something would make them jump. You finish the backward section, but would still be inside a building in a show room (while the transfers change). The wraiths could suround you. The riders have a kind of "cry wolf" sense now. They are expecting something to happen due to the wraiths being around. The girl could then appear to help you escape. You would then fly faward in attempt to escape (following the girl), into the woods. You are swooping about all over the place in order to loose the "villans". You arrive in the brake run, back up in the ride station with a quick message from the girl saying "well done, we escaped, untill next time...bye". The guest would then have left the ride with the satisfaction of succeeding a mission/scary event. I made that up off the top of my head and it already sounded like a better ride, purely based on peoples general reactions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James6 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 ^ I do agree, there is a lot of different things sort of thrown together with no apparent meaning or purpose. It is strange how there is a theme but just no coherency to it. Like I say, what is there is great, especially the station and crypt, there's just no meaning to it. And whilst I understand there is not always the need for all the riders to know the story so the ride relies on it, but a bit of continuity is needed in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeby-vuit Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 As you can see from my bad mock-up of the building, the exterior of the red wall marked with a Blue Arrow meets the exterior of the wall marked in Orange. But if the walls were fully built the Orange wall would be in that room and would look extremely weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James6 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 What... ?So it's poorly themed because if it was built in a certain way, the way it was not intended to be built, you think it wouldn't look right? Also, if they were going to build it completely, they wouldn't make it look weird.I am so confused, it's such a pointless, and incorrect statement I don't really understand what your trying to get across. Your criticising bits of the ride that aren't even built? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeby-vuit Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Surely if you were going to theme a ride you would get it themed correctly, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyT Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I'm struggling to see what you mean if I'm being honest. I've literally sat here reading your post over and over again for the last 10 minutes. I can't see how it's themed incorrectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James6 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 What do you mean themed correctly? Is there a "correct" way to theme? The theme of the ride is restoration work of the Towers, hence why it looks ruined/dilapidated and also is the reason for the scaffolding.I really have no idea what your trying to get across... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeby-vuit Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Forget it, If nobody else can see it then don't worry about it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Yeah there's nothing to criticise with it, its a theme.. doesn't have to be stupidly perfect because at the end of the day its not real and doesn't need to be to fit the theme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDan Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 The theme of Th13teen is great, it's just not very transparant to most people that ride it because there is not even a basic/brief storyline to advise guests what is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James6 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Ugh, trip tomorrow and just seen on Alton's website that Thirteen is unavailable Gutted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Ugh, trip tomorrow and just seen on Alton's website that Thirteen is unavailable Gutted.You are joking... :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James6 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 A million apologies - TH13TEEN will be unavailable to guests on Wednesday 2 June due to minor technical issues . Please keep checking here for further updates.*crys* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Tomorrow and thursday will be my only time at Alton this year due to distance. This has really upset me =/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James6 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 To be honest Ryan, I'd expect it to open later in the day. There are rumours of the trims being converted from magnetic to mechanical. so this is what they may be doing which could, hopefully improve the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 To be honest Ryan, I'd expect it to open later in the day. There are rumours of the trims being converted from magnetic to mechanical. so this is what they may be doing which could, hopefully improve the ride.I seriously hope so. My fingers are crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I highly doubt it'll be open at all tomorrow, but keep fingers crossed just incase! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenVig Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 it better be open on Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamY Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 ^ I concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 To be honest Ryan, I'd expect it to open later in the day. There are rumours of the trims being converted from magnetic to mechanical. so this is what they may be doing which could, hopefully improve the ride.If true thats quite a big job id think!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 If true thats quite a big job id think!!Removing the magnetic ones wouldn't be that difficult, installing the new mechanical ones would be though maybe...That's if that's the reason why... It may just be having a strop... It IS half term after all... I wouldn't blame the ride for not wanting to be abused by a load of school kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroDan Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Th13teen will remain closed tomorrow, Thursday 3rd June. Work is being carried out by Intamin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpeparkjack Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Personally, I think that's a poor move from the Towers. They should have got this work done before or after Half Term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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