Marc

I'm guessing this was a merlin idea and not thorpe, I wonder if this is linked with Altons very cheap offers in their hotel this year and they are just not as busy as expected - hence the cheap offers and hence this? Still aslong as its "styled" nicely it will look ok I hope, whilst its never going to look amazing I just hope some efforts made into its appearance.

I did wonder this too...... Also agree with this, but I guess times are hard at the moment all the merlin parks have been subject to budget cuts and what not, I do wonder if its so they can get a "hotel" open for the 2013 season which wouldnt be possible with a full hotel.

I dont think we can say its a "fact" this is a poor decision just yet, whilst I agree they will look pretty naff from the outside the rooms look a reasonable quality inside, we will only know if its a poor decision once we know how the hotel performs. Surely by the 24 hour security on site?

Agree with this, can see them being pretty popular with the club nights which seem to sell out every time and being open till 3AM limits public transport options for those drinking.

I agree, thorpe wont match it, but then how many guests can the alton hotel sleep compared? With 117 bedrooms the Bar 360 is probably big enough to facilitate guests, although I suspect most would leave the site and go into Staines. I get the feeling their obviously not to sure if they can warrant the investment in a hotel which would obviously be way more expensive than this. By the sounds of it they only plan to trial it a year then go full steam ahead and build the hotel at the end of 2013.

I guess if the dome stays open it would equal the offerings of Altons hotel? Food / Bar / Arcade? Just not all on site. Thorpes also open later more often with their club nights which are open till 3am, with very little public transport at that time I can see these being popular then. I guess we will see, and hope there successful enough for them to justify going ahead with the full plans for hotel.

Having read through the plans, there are delays with building the full hotel for a few reasons (I'm guessing mainly money). The Snoozebox is due to open Spring next year, much quicker they could ever dream of opening a hotel (and much cheaper if it fails), its due to be open for 3 years (close when new main hotel opens) and will have no effect on the coaster developments. If you think Runnymede denying this would be in anyway shape or form good for the park your crazy, that would set them back yonks and damage potential future investments.

Stealth all the way

I dont think single rider could ever work on Swarm for the same reason which front row queue dont, unless you were batched to rows from the bag room point but that would get even more confusing.

Thankfully though, issues such as Monday with many rides down is quite rare now, which is why free tickets were issued.

It wont be new by then

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I guess its a fine line, ive been on park and Swarms opened on 1 train for literally 5 minutes to then shutdown and the other added, whilst it only takes 5/10 mins its abit frustrating, but if there's a good 30 mins or so before the train will be ready I personally would rather it opened on 1 train till the others ready. Why there not both ready for 9:30 is a whole different matter to which I guess we may never know the reasons behind.

I guess we shall ignore the fact that 9 times out of 10 they open the entire park 30 mins earlier than advertised

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The reason staff say they don't know is down to things change so often, If you were told a ride was due to be open In 20 min that would cause even more complaints than them giving nothing away. No idea why the sudden change back to their old ways, but hopefully they can sort it soon, reliability hasn't been a huge issue for a couple of years now.

Thankfully not really, hence the free tickets?

The Swarms down at the mo now...

Maybe so, but as Josh has said there is a fine line. When we look at the hits and the traffic behaviour for tpm the MAJORITY are from members of the GP, looking up information on the park, rather than enthusiasts, which is why we try to cater for both. The reason you probably see more "advertising" of the park simply boils down to there are more offers, events which would interest the GP than goings on which the enthusiasts want to see. We take all comments on-board though, and its somthing we will discuss to try even the balance abit more.

I'm guessing the water maybe off for a reason... Can't see them both breaking at the exact same time?

Looks pretty decent, not sure id like to see one at Thorpe though, would be awesome to see this kind of thing at towers, if the woodie ever happens there.

They never actually said that I cant see it happening personally.

From a guess theres a number of reasons behind it, firstly it looks better to guests to have staff on hand (especially a popular ride like stealth) to close the area off and stop people entering instead of just putting up a fence and leaving it, secondly I guess it means the ride can reopen as soon as possible after its been fixed by the engineers instead of waiting for staff who are now tied up in other positions around the park.

They are usually the staff who will work on the ride if it re-opens..