Mark9

Just because they serve a purpose doesn't really mean they can't be modernised a tad. The ones at the entrance for example are rubbish and a lot of the time the water and dryers in toilets around the park don't work properly. Took me ages to find a working hot water tap in Gloomy Wood and the X Sector ones.

That quote taken out of context could cause some amusement.

Expain what you mean by this

I personally think the state of our industry is okay. It's always difficult to compare with America, when we're talking well themed rides we're normally just referring to Universal and Disney which have millions of dollars to play with and where the stakes are greater. When it comes to Six Flags and Cedar Fair, it's just giant metal structures with little to no theming. Our rides on the whole don't really have those problems. It's very easy to say our theme parks are expensive, when we know thats true. However it's not like getting a train or catching a bus. They are expensive endeavours, people know that and people can easily choose not to visit, in other words you aren't forced to visit. Now when you are inside the parks, thats another matter and things like Fastrack and the car parking don't help the situation. But what we forget is that the companies have invested millions into their parks. Take Thorpe in the last 11 years with over 60 million pounds invested in rides and attractions. It's so easy to stand their with the view that they offer poor value for money, but the only charge what they think is an acceptable level. As for our rides, I think they are of moderate to high quality. Whilst B&M have only just entered France with Monster and Oz'Iris we've had European and World firsts for over 20 years. Nemesis is world renowned in enthusiast circles for being the best B&M created, rides like Grand National, Wild Mouse and Megafobia stand the test of time as fantastic rides. We've got Adventure Island in Southend which is booming and building its own rides from scratch. Winter Wonderland in London is proving to be success year after year, it may not have the rides of German funfairs, but it is building up its reputation with increasing popularity. Flamingoland and Drayton Manor, for all their troubles are doing well with continual investment (let us not argue about the quality of their investments here). So in other words, in my opinion our industry is stable. Whilst it hits nowhere near the heights of Germany or parts of America, we do have decent investment and attractions.

Impatient toilet goers!

They aren't your racoons anymore.. they are the inter webs!

Not the most effect head/foot chopper there, although I agree with you that it is visually appealing.

Awkward. Onto more pressing matters.. Hero.

New for 2013 at the Alton Towers Resort , BACKWARDS OBLIVION

However, you were the one that argued so strongly that it would never happen.

Oh Benin, just accept the pie. I know you were being optimistic la de dah.

How would you like your pie Benin

Tell me abut it, wrong twice. Ouch

And it was all going so well...

We've got a lot of time-travellers on this forum.. Either that or people who won't open their minds just a little bit and are completely adverse to change. It might be really good with backwards rows. How can we know when we haven't ridden it yet.

The point is if they are willing to turn B&M inverter rows around, a ride which really doesn't need to change, then The Swarm which is a far more gentle ride is fair game for turned around rows. It puts more credibility to the backwards Swarm rumours.

Thanks to Towers Street who thank ACE. WE'RE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS PEOPLE.

It's a very beautiful looking ride. Quite typical of B&M then.

Oh good, we're at that point in the closed season where Top-Spins, Jump2's and Huss Breakdances are mentioned as potential flat rides. There is no way that Thorpe Park could sustain that type of investment. As is proving now, throwing rides at a park does not keep attracting guests. It's also backfired because people now expect these investments every year, such as mentioning Vengeance as moving to the park quite frequently. As an established park, rides like The Swarm and Saw: The Ride are things the park should be doing, things that are themed well and are appropriate. Storm Surge is not.

They've been doing this for a while. They opened Truckers, Carousel and Safari Skyway in 2008, Seastorm has opened a couple of times and Bubbleworks opened last year. It seems to be whatever rides are ready, nearest to the Zoo.

Definitly cheers me up on the way to work

The fish at Sea Life Brighton are getting corrected. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA9tF1NCMAAHgZO.jpg all of this stuff.

I was thinking that. If no-one had decided to say Swarm was going backwards, we'd all be fully talking about No Way Out but instead the clues point towards The Swarm, almost deliberately when really the clues could be both attractions. Gives us something else to talk about I suppose.

Sorry Josh, my original post was going to be "Josh, you need to visit other parks" I then decided to do some explaining but didn't cut out the blunt bit But I think we are in agreement. It's the same at Towers with Towers Street now being ruined by all the upsellers. It should be the view you remember.

I say let them win their little war. I mean it is such a non issue in itself. Don't visit the park then. The world weeps.