Fred Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Pleasure beach, and Drayton Manor, have had loads done to make the parks far more pleasing to be in. Paultons looks like it's done the same as well, though I've not visited it. And then we have mingo.. maybe we should all direct our hatred to mingo. Coaster and Benin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I found out recently that the River Caves at BPB is over 100 years old! (It opened in 1904) To be honest, I think that's amazing. Not only that it's lasted that long, but the fact that the whole park has evolved around it (literally - it's built under a huge section of the park). I am also told that apart from the addition of ambient lighting, various effects and audio, almost all of the interior is entirely original. Obviously there have been a few new props here and there, but the vast majority of it has been there for 110 years. (I couldn't see Merlin (or any other park for that matter) keeping a dark ride in such a good condition for that long!) The amazing thing is, it is still a brilliant dark ride today! dragon2000, Whiteknuckle and ste193 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 It's a real boring dark ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 It's a real boring dark ride. Oi! It's hugely detailed, well themed and has character. It's not a huge special effect machine but it doesn't need to be. dragon2000 and pluk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 It's hugely outdated, hugely boring and hugely not appreciated by anyone apart from those in their 90s. It's the tomb blaster of Blackpool. Bulldoze. Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 It's hugely outdated, hugely boring and hugely not appreciated by anyone apart from those in their 90s. It's the tomb blaster of Blackpool. Bulldoze. Seriously. You're talking rubbish now. Firstly, everyone who comes off it (apart from arrogant teenagers) has a smile on their face, it's a great family attraction and it's timeless. Secondly, I fail to see how it's the Tomb Blaster of Blackpool. It hasn't been ruined by laser guns, nor has it not been bothered with. Yet again it's seen lighting changes, fixed effects and a more mist effects put in this year. Meanwhile, Tomb Blaster is rotting away - none of it's anamatronics move! I know of loads of people who enjoy it (none of them are in their 90's). How is it outdated? It's not like Alice, which I'll admit is past it's sell by. It's a timeless classic IMO and they aren't going to bulldoze it when it's served them tirelessly for over 100 years. Plus, bulldozing it would also take out a huge area of the park as it's build underneath a lot of it. Do some research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC! Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 You're talking rubbish now. Firstly, everyone who comes off it (apart from arrogant teenagers) has a smile on their face, it's a great family attraction and it's timeless. Secondly, I fail to see how it's the Tomb Blaster of Blackpool. It hasn't been ruined by laser guns, plus there are probably more moving anamatronics in the Dinosaur scene than the whole of Tomb Blaster put together. I know of loads of people who enjoy it (none of them are in their 90's). How is it outdated? It's not like Alice, which I'll admit is past it's sell by. It's a timeless classic IMO and they aren't going to bulldoze it when it's served them tirelessly for over 100 years. Plus, bulldozing it would also take out a huge area of the park as it's build underneath a lot of it. Do some research. It's an opinion, if you don't agree so what, thats his opinion , you don't have to say he is talking rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 It's an opinion, if you don't agree so what, thats his opinion , you don't have to say he is talking rubbish. I'm not disputing that, but suggesting that a ride should be bulldozed because you don't like it is taking it a bit far. I'd happily see Air, Rita and Flying Fish bulldozed if that's the case! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC! Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Tbh if he wants it bulldozed, then thats what he thinks, seriously don't take a persons opinion overly seriously, ya know :P ( I learnt that the stupid way lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I'm not disputing that, but suggesting that a ride should be bulldozed because you don't like it is taking it a bit far. I'd happily see Air, Rita and Flying Fish bulldozed if that's the case! I'd happily see those three bulldozed as well. So we have some agreements. Though I'd prefer spinball dead than Air if we have it in timescale of bulldozingness. I just think it's exactly what Blackpool should not aim to be anymore. They seem to be clinging onto everything old and yet still manage to get people through the doors, which just isn't going to work. However, out of all the old stuff I suppose this is pretty relatively nice and I do agree that they maintain it well (the entire LED lighting change must've cost a fortune). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Yeah, and to be honest the classic attractions are what makes BPB unique. They are making progress - Goldmine and Magic Mountain (which were both old attractions and were knackered tbf) were taken out and replaced, but I am glad that they are retaining the vast majority of their old rides, and keeping them in a top notch state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 With Coaster Jamie on this one. It is a charming little ride that is well maintained and looks good. It doesn't try to do much by todays standards, but what it does do it does very well. It puts most dark rides not a fifth of its age to shame, Blackpool should be commended for things like this. Whiteknuckle, dragon2000 and Coaster 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 As a note, Tomb Blaster's animatronics are meant to move, dunno where that idea came from... River Caves is alright, good old fashioned bit of tat, bit dull as a ride overall (a trend with this style of dark ride mind), but inoffensive... Easier to maintain because it's cheap as chips really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 As a note, Tomb Blaster's animatronics are meant to move, dunno where that idea came from... My point was that they are meant to move, but barely any of them do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I am sitting on the fence with this one. On another note, Pleasure Beach did remove a few classics some years ago. The park is known for them and I think they would struggle if they attempted to recify that with new thrills that they may not have the space or money to produce effectively. As it is a business, sacrafice will be required but is taking away classics (like the River Caves) a wise move?. I would suggest not. I think they got it right with revamping Goldmine and just hope the business side of things improve as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benin Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 My point was that they are meant to move, but barely any of them do. But they do move when they're not broken, like any animatronic... River Caves has a lot of still models with a smattering of animatronics with a lot more simplistic movements... I don't get your point... Unless it's that Chessie's maintainence is dire, which we all know anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 I don't get your point... Unless it's that Chessie's maintainence is dire, which we all know anyway... That is basically what I was saying. Back on the subject of BPB, they've uploaded a new family advert which I think is much better than the one released a few months ago. EDIT: They've also uploaded a new thrillseeker one as well. Works much better with the voiceover! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWX_j-YtG54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Feels less like a corporate video that you show to inside clients, but still isn't great. Getting there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipper Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 I do have to admit I like the adverts, but it does feel quite corporate. Fair play to them though trying to big up their rides the way they have; with statistics (regardless of how accurate, and Jamie can't disagree there, I know that park too well for my own good) - but it doesn't really scream fun, and thrills like it should. It just says to me, we have some rides, we're cheap, and we're easy to get to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 I do have to admit I like the adverts, but it does feel quite corporate. Fair play to them though trying to big up their rides the way they have; with statistics (regardless of how accurate, and Jamie can't disagree there, I know that park too well for my own good) - but it doesn't really scream fun, and thrills like it should. It just says to me, we have some rides, we're cheap, and we're easy to get to. Haha I agree that some of them aren't accurate, although I'm yet to see a big UK park that hasn't lied about something before. They could promote the idea of fun more, but I think that the advert represents the park well - stylish, modern (but with old attractions) and the rides are shown quite a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GladiatorFanKyle Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Oi! Blackpool maintain their rides to much higher standard than merlin! one word for you. Bling. They destroyed that ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 one word for you. Bling. They destroyed that ride. Well, they sold it. Not quite the same thing. This isn't about the crappy filler rides, it's about their classic attractions, they wouldn't be looking to preserve a modern funfair ride the same way they would a classic. Coaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 one word for you. Bling. They destroyed that ride. Bling downgraded the overall feel of the park as it was a funfair-y IMO, it either needed a huge facelift or getting rid of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Ice blast. Maintained so badly that S&S won't have anything to do with it as they've void everything. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Ice blast. Maintained so badly that S&S won't have anything to do with it as they've void everything. Lol. I have heard about that one, I think it's improved now as that was quite a few years ago in the Geoffrey Thompson era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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