Theme Park bloke Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I've just had several great days at Alton Towers.Yet I've been blacking out on Nemesis. I've been on it 5 times.Is it something I should worry about? I've come back from the park a little worried about this and and worried whether this will harm or affect me long-term in my life.The blackouts usually occur as halfway through the helix (or Zero G roll?), after the first corkscrew, and although I "see" white, not black, my vision is usually back as we exit the second corkscrew over the station. This means the ride photo you see of me is during a blackout.The only other ride I get blackouts on is Colossus, it happens as we exit the loop, meaning I miss half the bunnyhop.Is this something I should make a doctors appointment for, or just mention to the doctor next time I am there?Please can anyone help or advise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 You my friend, are lucky, as you only get them on rides, I don't have a choice, the simple task of standing up can make me black out. I would seek medical advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 On my first ride on Colossus back in 2007, I'm not sure if I had a black out, but when I came off the ride I couldn't remember anything from the loop to the last inline twist. Like I said, I'm not sure if it was a blackout but it could have been. It hasn't happened to me on any ride since. If it's happening to you often, then yes I would advise to seek medical help.Although if I was to say something, I would think that blackouts are very common and not something to be very worried about. Red-outs are what you need to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenVig Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I Always backout on the Zero G Roll after the loop on Nemesis Inferno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollerross11 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 ive blacked out for almost 2 mins on golaith at SFMM. It wasnt fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theme Park bloke Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Red-outs are what you need to worry about.What are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 What are they?Basically a rush of blood to the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theme Park bloke Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 This may be what I'm experiencing, causing my vision to go for about 5 seconds. My hearing is fine throughout this though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James6 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 From the sounds of it, it's pretty normal, On Colossus it's weird at the bottom of the first drop I get a sort of starry white effect in front of my eyes for a few seconds.However I think I'm just weird, I get migraines after any exercise whatsoever, in fact that reminds me I'm going to hospital about that next week :PIt's really not anything serious to worry about, might be worth a mention to your doctor next time but I wouldn't make an appointment specially for it.There was a TV programme a while ago about roller coasters and it mentioned Black-outs and white-outs etc, What you are experiencing is almost definitely NOT a red out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 James is right, if you had experienced a red-out, you would have known it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themeparkmad Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I used to black out on Nemesis Inferno on the Zero G Roll, but now I don't.Same with SAW: The Ride, The main drop made me black out, but now I don't on that neither.The only ride that makes me black out vertually everytime I ride it is Nemesis at Alton Towers.(But I will still go on it loads of times, as it is my favourite ride at Alton! )As people have said, I would not worry if they are only occuring on Rides and Attractions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Hmmm...I have never had any blacking out experiences, but they don't sound fun from what I have heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I know loads of people who have had them, it's not uncomfortable or painful to them, it just means that you don't remember the part of the ride where you blacked out.I didn't realize quite how common it was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossafc Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I've never had any black-out experiences, but I felt dizzy once after the firts loop on Nemesis Inferno... But only once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mer Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I've heard it was called greying out ;)It happens to me on Colossus going into the veritcal loop, my vision goes kinda fuzzy and my head feels weird but I don't forget anything.And it also always happens on the zero-g roll on Inferno.It's just the g-force I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Like I said count it lucky it happens once or twice on a ride, try living it with 24/7.... its hell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Watson Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 It happened to me on Goliath and Batman at SFMM, I think that was due to the heat and humidity because its never ever happened to me before. Its nothing to worry about though, no permanent damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theme Park bloke Posted September 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I know loads of people who have had them, it's not uncomfortable or painful to them, it just means that you don't remember the part of the ride where you blacked out.I didn't realize quite how common it was!I remember where it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeis Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I remember coming off rides not remembering alot, but I'm very sure I didnt black out. However, on the back seat of Nemesis inferno, exiting the loop, I do feel perticuly light headed and sometimes "greyout". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepie Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 This is a pretty common problem. I've heard many experiences of people having grey- outs on inferno and Nemesis. I've experienced it on Inferno during the vertical loop.It happens because the G- Forces you are experiencing pulls all the blood away from your head, and towards your legs. A grey out can affect you if you are de-hydrated, or tired, as the body isn't functioning as well as it could be.It's nothing to worry about, but if you feel as though you need to, then definately go speak to your doctor. Mer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I Always backout on the Zero G Roll after the loop on Nemesis InfernoPUSSY.Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Users Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 I wish I blacked out on Viper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 What is a grey out like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluk Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I think there's other factors which can affect grey outs. For example, if you're dehydrated, been riding rides for a long period of time, etc., so it could vary from person to person. I've come close to a grey out on Swarm, but never actually had one. Only Saw and Inferno have given me grey outs - but both times it had happened, I had re-riden them a lot, and it was a hot day. Grey out will happen with sustained g's, not necessarily high g's, so I suppose it makes sense as Swarm has some quite drawn out manoeuvres. I don't come close to greying out on it though so am surprised if people really do as it should be quite a consistent thing amongst most people. If you grey out on The Swarm I would strongly suggest you never ever get on Goliath at 6 flags magic mountain! Is it strange this is the only ride I have actually fully Greyed out on. Wiki on greying out I can't feel other peoples experiences obviously, but when people talk of greying/blacking out on coasters like The Swarm I'm not entirely sure that's what has happened to them. I think of it as a very specific thing and it has only fully happened to me on Goliath. As the helix continues on and on and the pressure builds up and up the pressure pulls the blood out of your head and as you see it the world around you turns grey as the colour drains out until what you are seeing is in black and white and slowly fading to nothing. If it were continue it would become a white out which would fairly swiftly lead to loss of conciousness. I don't see that there is any element or combination of elements which could possibly do that on The Swarm, they are just not strong enough or prolonged enough. What I do sometimes get is a light headed feeling on The Swarm (mostly going into the stations flyover), on Colossus (through the rolls) and little spots on plenty of other coasters. I think a lot of people might feel that and think 'whoa, I was starting to grey out there' when really they weren't, they are actually a long long way from it and are just getting a little message from their brain that it can't quite work out what the hell is going on. By its nature a grey out can only be the result of a prolonged application of g's. If people really are getting them on such short forces you've got to wonder if your heart is quite up to the job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I've never blacked out on anything as far as I'm aware, I did Swarm 7x in a row (backwards 4x) last week and was fine, then last night, end of the evening on the left hand side of Swarm row 5, I greyed out a little going through the corkscrew. It was very peculiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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