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Arguably, work has been going on on all 3 islands.. Also, the MTDP stated that Island C (aka, the island behind Flying Fish) and not Island A (island behind Stealth) would be used for the 2012 coaster. So yeah, your proof is little more than a slightly educated guess in my view...

You're gonna fit in on this forum perfectly..Welcome Mark!

The reason why I'm saying it's advertising the ride is because it has a tagline; creating a build up - hype, if you will.If this ride doesn't come, then I personally won't be annoyed, it'll just be the ride that never was.And I'm not having a go at Thorpe either. The image there is great! However, I'm just hypothetically saying, IF this ride cannot be constructed, then Thorpe could be it a bit of a pickle with a few people. This website is read by many many more people, not just enthusiasts.

Okay, I don't care that you don't want to know who works there, but some people are responsible for the effects who work specifically at the park (as far as I'm aware). Basically means that effects should realistically be maintained all year round.Hmm, interesting. So, because you - one person - would prefer an updated version, you believe that most people would? Who wants the same old ride? Arguably, quite a lot of people do. Also, who wants the same ride - why not have a completely new type of ride altogether? There once was! Can't remember if it was when it was Thunder River or RRR, but there once was a time when there were loads of water pistols scattered around the course. Ah, memories.

You're looking at that from such an enthusiast perspective. The majority of the general public probably have no idea what the MTDP shows, where to find it or possibly what it even is. Also, I highly doubt you've got loads of members of the council who are avidly looking at sites like this. However, when you type 'Thorpe Park' into google or most search engines, this site is usually in the first 15 or so results. People can easily access this and see it. So, for those thousands upon thousand of people who don't look on fansites every day or are keen searchers of planning applications of random councils, then this will be a surprise. This will be an announcement. This will be something to go 'oooh' or 'wow' over. This will be something to spark interest. In my eyes, that is advertising. And the fuss then lies on if the planning application is actually passed, because if it isn't, then Thorpe could be in a bit of pickle, don't you think?

People at Merlin? So, you're saying there's no one at the park who is responsible for looking after the effects, and it's all down to a team that covers all Merlin parks? I think you've mis-interpreted my post. I'm saying that not every ride has to be the best ride of it's type. Some rides do have to be simplistic and, to put in how you worded it, 'crap'. Of course rides need to be at their best as much as possible, and I'm in no way saying that. Also, what would the general public prefer? An entire new ride that they've never seen before or a new ride that's 'the same as what they had here before'?

You see, what I highlighted annoys me. Take park would have been open for what - hour and a half, 2 hours? In those 2 hours, people could easily just chuck rubbish in the lake, it doesn't mean that they haven't cleaned it out. The fact that you say still makes it seem that it's been left there for ages, when it could easily have been an hour or so. And, if you expect somewhere to just magically appear and clear it up, you are being a bit naive...Poorly maintained? I agree with that partially, but that's not just Rumba Rapids. A lot of the effects slowly get worse as the season goes on. Take the Inferno tunnel. Beginning of the season, mist everywhere. End of the season, practically no mist. As for the colours, yeah, they're not the best, a bit of an eye sore, but at least it was an attempt at creating a theme. People would have been moaning a lot more if it was generic brown fencing...I don't really know about that many other rapids, and yeah, there are tons better out there, but you can still enjoy Rumba and, being at Thorpe, it suits nicely as a break away from the big rides. Not every ride has to be the best...

I must be one of the few people who don't mind Rumba Rapids. Yeah, the colours are a bit of a sore. Yeah, it's short. Yeah, you don't get that wet. But I still enjoy it. It's one of those rides where you can be in a large group or a small group and go round and have a laugh. Plus, it's suitable for everyone. Whilst it may not get you wet, you don't want every single water ride soaking you to the bone, and there's still times when you can get a bit of a soak on there. It could easily be improved, but if people enjoy it, why not?

^ One word that summed up the entire article: rumours.So to say we've 'known' this for nearly a year is ridiculous...

Bare in mind the MTDP outlined a maximum length of both the 2012 and 2015 coasters of 850m. Montu and Kraken are about 1200-1300m in comparison. Still, Colossus is 850m, and that's an okay length coaster..

...And Project X - X:No Way Out ;)Arguably, Calypso relates to Nemesis Inferno, due to it being central to Calypso Quay. And I heard something that it was called Project Odyssey because it was originally planned for opening in 2001, and there's the film 2001: A Space Odyssey. Not sure whether that's a bunch of rubbish or not though...

What exactly do you mean by 'work'? Could mean so many things to be honest...

I never said Thorpe are even getting that style of ride though...You just can't be sure that Thorpe are not getting a prototype, surely?

How can you be so sure though?

In no way am I expecting roads to be gritted straight away.But the fact that no grit whatsoever had been laid down prior - and yes, it was predicted (granted, not as much) - that is what I don't like.Yep, been hit by a properly packed snowball, and it does blooming hurt. Also, was in a skidding car on Saturday, striking the kerb with a bit of force. That hurts a bit too..Yeah, college term meant to finish tomorrow, though will probably not open tomorrow. I was meant to be getting past papers today dor revision, which is why I'm annoyed.In the end, yeah, I'm moaning about the snow. So? I can deal with it, and have dealt with it so far, but there's a point where I just tire of how unprepared this country can be...

One thing that has annoyed me slightly...Now, I completely understand that snow will affect transport. I know that with the heavy downpour I've had the past few days - resulting is about 5 inches of snow - is bound to cancel a few trains and flights and buses and whatever else.On Saturday and Sunday, when the snow was falling, trains were running. Yet now, despite the condition of the tracks improving, trains are now cancelled in my area. Meant I couldn't get into college today, which was annoying. And now the snow is falling again, already had nearly an inch in about half an hour. No roads gritted, no paths gritted. I sure do hope that Philip Hammond is choking on his words that we'd "be able to cope with (the snow)."

Between now and then is the best answer to give. There COULD be a chance that they're submitted this week, what with them 'officially' announcing the project. We don't know. The MTDP indicate it could be ~50m / 150ft, but we know how much a MTDP is worth, don't we...

I'm sorry, that is an advert.The fact that they have a tagline, an image and 'Thorpe Park 2012' means that it can't be a simple hint. Also, I'm interested to how they've always hinted to a new project.. Whilst I'm unfamiliar with Inferno's construction, just because we knew about it before Colossus was finished, doesn't mean it was advertised?Also, taking all my post in context, I see no logic in advertising a ride a year before it opens unless they have a year long strategy for marketing it...

To be fair, everything else is pretty darn awesome! Yeah, we got that too. Thankfully, it's just been harmless joking for the most part. But agreed - just 'genius'.

So, got a case of keyboard warriors happening at college. Basically, a teacher set up a website called '*College Name* Independent', whereby the students of the college could post articles on whatever they wanted (after they had been moderated by the editorial team) and could remain anonymous or not (having to give the team their college email to verify that they're a college student). It would be free from all teacher comments so the students could independently express all their views.Anyways, beginning of the week comes, and an article, from an anonymous author, comes up which criticises the Laws department and how it is run. Now, the head of department is a right and utter idiot in my eyes, he thinks he's sovereign above the college and can make all his own rules. The department is much stricter and gives out a heck of a lot more homework than other departments do. The rule is, if you don't do your homework, you get given an 3 page minimum essay due for the next day, regardless or what else is going on - as well as the homework due in. Anyway, gone off on a tangent. Thinking he's above the rules, he comments on the article, needlessly dismissing all of the valid points because of the anonymity of the article. It is published as a 'one off' for fairness, as the article did, to some extent, personal criticise him. Then, another anonymous article comes up on Wednesday about the pope, which argued that the pope was a 'wickedly immoral man'. He then kicks up a fuss, say they're being religiously discriminating, not worthy of being a student at the college, and that the website's editorial team and the teacher behind it should either 'resign or leave the college'. Of course, rather than maturely going up to the teacher behind it all, he posts this on his own blog, which all Laws students use for lesson materials. It's now just slid downhill further and further into this teacher become the ultimate keyboard warrior, saying that anonymity is wrong and all this and that. He says that they're tarnishing the college, because one person gave a view about the pope. Now this independent website is closing down, out of pure tiredness for this pathetic teacher's views. Sigh, why oh why did I take Politics?

Well, with the whole 8 words and picture that the park has given us, we can hardly have a better idea at what the ride will be. Maybe a slight hint towards a theme, but even then, it's quite generic.So, here's my theory:- B&M- Situated on Island C (behind Flying Fish)- 40-50m tall.- Some form of monster involved in the ride's theme.Hopefully we can get a ride that has more of a story line, like Oblivion. Something that Saw could have done a lot better at.

Nope, not on their site as far as I'm aware. However, TPM - being an official link, and appealing to the GP as well as fans - will probably mean the news spreads over Facebook and the like relatively quickly. I don't see the logic in advertising a ride a year before it will open, before the park is open for the preceding season and before they've got confirmation they can build the ride. Of course, I'm assuming that they won't follow this one with others on a regular basis, creating a good story or something, and that they haven't got confirmation they can construct it. Is it possible for a planning application to not be published online with a specific request? You never know, they may have already submitted it in if that's possible...

Yep, Storm Surge sure did. Stealth, thought that was first officially advertised when the park opened, but meh. But how can you be so sure that it won't be refused? If locals don't like and kick up a big enough fuss, anything is possible...

Interesting tactic from Thorpe though.Advertising a ride before planning application is accepted...