ThorpeTella Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Ginster's sponsor?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeah Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 On 11/9/2016 at 5:30 PM, Ian-S said: Why not? Can't be any worse than branding a dark ride around a nonexistent animal. Expand I can see it now Josh3103, Han30 and Cian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Haha that's exactly what I was thinking, with boats mocked up to look like Cornish Pasties. yeah, Han30 and Josh3103 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh3103 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 That would be hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenVig Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Why has this topic been moved, when it has not been 100% confirmed this ride is a thing of the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 12:28 PM, StevenVig said: Why has this topic been moved, when it has not been 100% confirmed this ride is a thing of the past? Expand People are blatantly in the know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenVig Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 12:37 PM, Ryan said: People are blatantly in the know Expand Until it is confirmed by the park, to the public, nothing is 100% certain This topic should be moved back accordingly. Josh3103, PJ. and Coaster 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 They have only just put on Facebook it's still under development for next year, can't see why they would still be doing this if it was 100% confirmed it was a thing of the past. Josh3103 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 1:41 PM, Adam P said: They have only just put on Facebook it's still under development for next year, can't see why they would still be doing this if it was 100% confirmed it was a thing of the past. Expand Left hand doesn't know what right hand is doing? Happens a lot in big business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh3103 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 I agree it needs to be moved back to General discussion it shouldn't be in the past if it hasn't been officialy confirmed by Thorpe park that loggers is permanently closed StevenVig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cian Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Doesn't tell us an awful lot, but interesting.. Josh3103 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-S Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Flirting with Thorpe Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 I've moved this topic to 'The Future', for two reasons... 1) It's funny seeing people get over-worked up over where a topic on a forum is being placed, and this place seems rather inappropriate. 2) If Loggers Leap does return, and that's a pretty big if, I reckon we would see some changes. Related to the second point, if anyone genuinely believes that Loggers Leap is reopening in 2017, they are surely kidding themselves. No work has been done to it. Social media is very evasive over the subject. There's been no firm rumours about its return. And Merlin wouldn't miss the opportunity for a minor spruce up to go down as a major refurb which should be heavily marketed. It all points to it not reopening in 2017. If anyone does feel particularly strongly about the location of this topic and can put forth a genuinely compelling argument as to why a SBNO ride should remain in a subforum about present day things, then please contact a team member... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 9:28 PM, BaronC. said: Related to the second point, if anyone genuinely believes that Loggers Leap is reopening in 2017, they are surely kidding themselves. No work has been done to it. Social media is very evasive over the subject. There's been no firm rumours about its return. And Merlin wouldn't miss the opportunity for a minor spruce up to go down as a major refurb which should be heavily marketed. It all points to it not reopening in 2017. Expand But even today, Thorpe are posting things such as; Quote "Logger's Leap is still under redevelopment for 2017! We hope for it to make a splashback soon Expand Surely they wouldn't be making statements like this if Loggers Leap wasn't returning next year in some shape or form? Josh3103 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 I read that as it's under development throughout the 2017 season.. maybe that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshC. Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 9:34 PM, Coaster Jamie said: But even today, Thorpe are posting things such as; Surely they wouldn't be making statements like this if Loggers Leap wasn't returning next year in some shape or form? Expand This is precisely an example of social media being evasive. "Loggers Leap is under redevelopment for 2017" - this can have two meanings. One meaning is that it's being developed to open in the 2017 season. The other is that it's being developed during the 2017. It's ambiguous. "We hope for it to make a splashback soon" - this is related to the ride opening; "hope" and "soon" being key words. Hoping means nothing really - you can hope for anything to happen, but it doesn't mean that it will or that it won't. Saying soon gives an endless timescale, since there's no real way to measure 'soon-ness'. Put all that together and what they're saying is "Loggers Leap is closed for 2017, and it may or may not reopen in the future". But they're giving people an evasive response to try and stop people questioning about it all the time. And people will buy it. pluk and Josh3103 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh3103 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 9:34 PM, Coaster Jamie said: But even today, Thorpe are posting things such as; Surely they wouldn't be making statements like this if Loggers Leap wasn't returning next year in some shape or form? Expand When I asked them on messenger if it will reopen they said "Hi we are unable to confirm this yet we will keep you updated however we hope it will make a splash back in the future" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeah Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 9:36 PM, Marc said: I read that as it's under development throughout the 2017 season.. maybe that's just me. Expand Nope, not just you. Josh3103 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Ah, I didn't read it like that but it could well be saying that. So essentially, this is what Thorpe could be saying; -Loggers Leap has been sat idle during 2016, despite it being initially advertised as renovations. This is a WHOLE SEASON and two closed seasons they have had to complete the work. - Despite this, it could get to 2017 before any work actually starts on the ride, and even then, the "redevelopment" may not actually happen. By this point, the ride would have been sat SBNO for TWO years. Utterly, utterly disgraceful. Josh3103 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 10:10 PM, Coaster Jamie said: Ah, I didn't read it like that but it could well be saying that. So essentially, this is what Thorpe could be saying; -Loggers Leap has been sat idle during 2016, despite it being initially advertised as renovations. This is a WHOLE SEASON and two closed seasons they have had to complete the work. - Despite this, it could get to 2017 before any work actually starts on the ride, and even then, the "redevelopment" may not actually happen. By this point, the ride would have been sat SBNO for TWO years. Utterly, utterly disgraceful. Expand The fact is no one on here knows what work the ride needs - we have no idea of the reasons for its closure, we've no idea how much money it will cost. The park is hardly short of water rides, in a country where at best they are popular for 2/3 months a season. I'd love to see loggers reopen but the fact is the ride is advertised no where on their website, no where on the park map and he official word is they "hoped" it would return in 2017 and now they "hope" it will return in the future. yeah and Josh3103 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeah Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Or we just read it wrong and its either opening next year or never again? It's pretty clear that whatever's going on with Loggers Leap, it's happening out of the public eye. They could've torn up all the ride before the main drop for all we know, to do the second half over the coming months. Whatever's happening, it'd be pretty wrong for Thorpe to claim it's being redeveloped only to close it completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coaster Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 10:26 PM, Marc said: The fact is no one on here knows what work the ride needs - we have no idea of the reasons for its closure, we've no idea how much money it will cost. The park is hardly short of water rides, in a country where at best they are popular for 2/3 months a season. I'd love to see loggers reopen but the fact is the ride is advertised no where on their website, no where on the park map and he official word is they "hoped" it would return in 2017 and now they "hope" it will return in the future. Expand I don't agree that water rides are only popular for 2-3 months in a year, having seen one of the wettest rides in the country with a queue out of the extensions on some of the coldest days of the season! The Flume at Alton is another example, that always had a queue when I was there, and I usually visit out of the summer months. Log Flumes are a staple ride and IMO, every theme park should have one. They appeal to everyone (families, thrillseekers etc) and Loggers was consistently popular, not just in the summer months. Josh3103 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 On 11/10/2016 at 10:10 PM, Coaster Jamie said: Ah, I didn't read it like that but it could well be saying that. So essentially, this is what Thorpe could be saying; -Loggers Leap has been sat idle during 2016, despite it being initially advertised as renovations. This is a WHOLE SEASON and two closed seasons they have had to complete the work. - Despite this, it could get to 2017 before any work actually starts on the ride, and even then, the "redevelopment" may not actually happen. By this point, the ride would have been sat SBNO for TWO years. Utterly, utterly disgraceful. Expand It's not disgraceful. It's just something you disagree with. These parks don't just close rides for the fun of it. They are fully aware of how popular Loggers Leap was and Thorpe have shown time and time again that they have patience with disobedient rides (Slammer and Samurai I'm looking at you). There is a fundamental reason why Loggers closed in 2015. Admittedly Thorpe saying they plan to redevelop/refurb it aren't helping matters but maybe, potentially, even they don't really know if it will ever re-open. You'd have hated 2005 when Rodeo, Boneshaker, Dynamo & the whole of Cred Street closed. Not to mention the countless Blackpool rides that were SBNO at that time. PJ. and CharlieN 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyessy Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Unfortunately, Loggers Leap was not as popular as people may think. In 2014 and 2015, LoggersLeap was rated the third best water ride by guests after Tidal Wave and Storm Surge. Storm Surge also had more riders than Loggers Leap in both those years It was still popular in a way, and it's decline in popularity wasn't the cause for its closure. But it was not as popular as people seem to think or make out pluk and PJ. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark9 Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 Go Tidal Wave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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